FTM - I'm no good at sources - Help!

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Lorna Allison
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Location: Perthshire

Post by Lorna Allison » Thu Aug 16, 2007 5:48 pm

Thanks all

Russell: I have been doing various mix and matches in those areas, but just haven't come up with something concise enough.

Mary: That sounds like the answer and I am going to give it a try. Unfortunately I deleted two substantial entries because I was so concerned about the detail getting into the public domain, while it is valuable info for the immediate family.

Isabel: I will juggle again with the sources. if you put the details in at the dedicated place at the end of the marriage entry for instance, would you enter a marriage register or marriage cert in the general "edit" area as well?

The surprise for me is that I compiled a book on my Welsh Price family with pictures, reports etc with very little problem :P Now, what did I do right :?:
That was on 2006 version. I too will be interested to hear what 2008 is like.

Regards

Lorna
Researching:

PAUL: Lanarkshire;
TORRANCE: Lanarkshire
CROSGROVE: Ayrshire, Glasgow
ALLISON: Glasgow
PRICE: Monmouthshire
CURZON: Staffs, Monmouthshire
TAIT, HUME, MIDDLEMAS,: Roxburghshire
PRINGLE: Glasgow, Central Belt, Edinburgh

Kathy
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Location: Australia, born in Paisley

Post by Kathy » Thu Aug 16, 2007 11:13 pm

I was fed up saving so many individual reports to my hard drive, and like you I wanted to leave out information, depending on who the report was for.

Now, when I produce a genealogy report in FTM, I right click on the report, and copy, then right click on a word ducument and paste, this then allows me to add or delete information prior to printing.


Kathy
McNeil, McNeill, Craig, Orr, Mitchell, McArthur, McMillan, McGregor, Gray, Dixon, Graham, RFW, Port Glasgow, Greenock & Paisley.
Thornton, Lynch, Flood, Sexton, County Cavan Ireland.
Appleby, Cardiff, Wales,Cooke, Holder, Gloucestershire, England

Isabel H
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Location: Scotland

Post by Isabel H » Thu Aug 16, 2007 11:15 pm

Lorna Allison wrote: if you put the details in at the dedicated place at the end of the marriage entry for instance, would you enter a marriage register or marriage cert in the general "edit" area as well?
By "the dedicated place" do you mean the box labelled Footnote at the bottom of the Source citation?
I have FTM11 which may not be the same as yours, and enter all the info. from certificates in the source citation box. Where it says Title of Source I put "Birth/Death/Marriage cert. for Joe Bloggs", type the body of the text into the citation box, click on Edit source and put "GRO(S)" as Author or originator. For an OPR I would put "Banns for Joe Bloggs" and "OPR" as Author. Then I put in year, district no. & entry no. as the Call no. When you fill in Edit source the details automatically appear in the Footnote. Check/uncheck "Include citation text in footnote" to see how that affects what will print out in a report.
Good luck,
Isabel

Lorna Allison
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Post by Lorna Allison » Fri Aug 17, 2007 12:25 am

Right Kathy I'll have a go at that too. Sounds good

Isabel, at the end of my 2 marriage spaces (one for date, one for place) in family view there is a little square which has an icon like an unrolled scroll in it, you are supposed to click on this and up comes the master source, citation text etc. to be filled in.

I also have a general edit box in family view which, when clicked, gives me a list of facts (the marriage entry does not show in this) and then facts can be added and/edited. You can choose marriage from the list on offer if you want and go through the whole process again. :roll:

I am going to sit quietly tomorrow, go through all of your suggestions and decide on a way forward.

Lorna
Researching:

PAUL: Lanarkshire;
TORRANCE: Lanarkshire
CROSGROVE: Ayrshire, Glasgow
ALLISON: Glasgow
PRICE: Monmouthshire
CURZON: Staffs, Monmouthshire
TAIT, HUME, MIDDLEMAS,: Roxburghshire
PRINGLE: Glasgow, Central Belt, Edinburgh

Lorna Allison
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Location: Perthshire

Post by Lorna Allison » Fri Aug 17, 2007 12:40 am

One thing I might mention, in case anyone else has had this problem.

My ability to save reports as a pdf file packed up at the worst possible moment (three contacts waiting for me to pass on info after they had been most generous). I was tearing my hair.

Went to my local whizz kid and he installed a free programme called cutepdf which also required to have its converter installed. He did it in a trice. Now when I want to save as a pdf file I have to click on the print icon, click on print options, choose specific printer and then choose cutepdf from the list and click. The file is then saved as a pdf file. Somehow the programme is tricked into thinking it is going to print but in fact is saving to pdf format.

This computer stuff is CRAZY [alien]

Might add, while I was in his workshop he let me have a look at the new website he was putting together for our local village. I (tactfully) asked if he was going to have it proofread before launch (in two days time and thoosan's of errors). Would if I could said he - I offered and got my pdf thingy done for nothing :!:

I may not be much cop at computers but I'm not too bad on English :P

Lorna
Researching:

PAUL: Lanarkshire;
TORRANCE: Lanarkshire
CROSGROVE: Ayrshire, Glasgow
ALLISON: Glasgow
PRICE: Monmouthshire
CURZON: Staffs, Monmouthshire
TAIT, HUME, MIDDLEMAS,: Roxburghshire
PRINGLE: Glasgow, Central Belt, Edinburgh

Russell
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Location: Kilbarchan, Renfrewshire

Post by Russell » Fri Aug 17, 2007 12:52 am

Hi Lorna

Sounds like a pretty fair exchange to me.
You can't really proof read your own stuff when you have spent hours working on it. You assume it says what you think it aught to say.
My daughter did a lot of proof reading and she tells me she started at the bottom of the page so she didn't try to read the content, only the spelling. Once that was done she could turn to looking at structure and make separate comments on that.

The .pdf miniprogramme sounds a useful add-on. It's probably available somewhere out on the Web but first you have to find it, then appreciate what it can do for you. Thank goodness for whizz kids.

Russell
Working on: Oman, Brock, Miller/Millar, in Caithness.
Roan/Rowan, Hastings, Sharp, Lapraik in Ayr & Kirkcudbrightshire.
Johnston, Reside, Lyle all over the place !
McGilvray(spelt 26 different ways)
Watson, Morton, Anderson, Tawse, in Kilrenny

Lorna Allison
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Post by Lorna Allison » Fri Aug 17, 2007 1:41 am

Yes, he just picked it up off the web while muttering "I'm sure I saw something somewhere . . . . .yup, there it is"!

This lad is just very early 20s, self taught and (as I knew him at school where I was in admin) I know that he was not popular with the computing dept staff! More or less a square peg in a round hole, totally laid back and loathing the place. Well, he's great now.

Very interested in the strategies for proof reading. Have just been into the site and "they" have been adding bits and pieces :shock: I can see this is going to be an ongoing occupation.

Lorna
Researching:

PAUL: Lanarkshire;
TORRANCE: Lanarkshire
CROSGROVE: Ayrshire, Glasgow
ALLISON: Glasgow
PRICE: Monmouthshire
CURZON: Staffs, Monmouthshire
TAIT, HUME, MIDDLEMAS,: Roxburghshire
PRINGLE: Glasgow, Central Belt, Edinburgh

Isabel H
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Location: Scotland

Post by Isabel H » Fri Aug 17, 2007 11:50 am

Lorna Allison wrote: at the end of my 2 marriage spaces (one for date, one for place) in family view there is a little square which has an icon like an unrolled scroll in it, you are supposed to click on this and up comes the master source, citation text etc. to be filled in.
I don't have that icon & have to View source or use Ctrl+S to access the Master citation, though I suspect the citation box will be pretty much the same once you get to it.
I think Kathy's solution sounds simpler and probably less work.

Lorna Allison
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Joined: Fri Jan 06, 2006 11:02 pm
Location: Perthshire

Post by Lorna Allison » Wed Aug 22, 2007 9:50 pm

Thank you Everybody

I have copied, edited and sent off a very acceptable report. Much more satisfactory than was ever previously possible.

Thank you for pooling all your hard won information and expertise :P

Lorna
Researching:

PAUL: Lanarkshire;
TORRANCE: Lanarkshire
CROSGROVE: Ayrshire, Glasgow
ALLISON: Glasgow
PRICE: Monmouthshire
CURZON: Staffs, Monmouthshire
TAIT, HUME, MIDDLEMAS,: Roxburghshire
PRINGLE: Glasgow, Central Belt, Edinburgh

Ina
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