Who was Uncle Bernard?

[WilmaM]

I've a bit of a puzzle in Massachusetts that I hope somebody can help me unravel.

My Grandfather's Sister Charlotte BELL left Co Fermanagh to go to Mass. in the early 1920's.

I have her on 3 Ship's lists on the Ellis Island site:
13th June 1921
10th July 1921
9th May 1922

The 1st 2 entries have a line through them, so I assume she never did sail on the ship.

The details on each are more or less the same [unless you could eyes going from blue to brown? ]

She gives her Mother's name Maggie Bell as her contact in Derrygonnelly Fermanagh and the same address in Mass. and her age as 19 and 21, giving a birth date of 1901/2

This is where the puzzle comes in -
it is stated that she is going to her Aunt or Uncle Bernard MULLEN of 52 [or 5] Ashmount Avenue, Newtonville Mass.
Her aunt's first name isn't mentioned.

Charlotte's parents were Andrew BELL and Margaret STINSON so Bernard shouldn't be a blood relative.

Is there any way I could find out who the Mullen's are? and how they relate to Charlotte.

As she is Irish I haven't manged to trace the family back further than my grandfather's parents and their children.

Charlotte married out there a Mr MILLS, name unknown, and her last address was: 33 Morton Street Watertown 62172 Mass. She would have died in the 1970's or 80's I think.

Does anyone know a way of working these good folks out?

[LesleyB]

Hi Wilma

it is stated that she is going to her Aunt or Uncle Bernard MULLEN of 52 [or 5] Ashmount Avenue, Newtonville Mass.
Her aunt's first name isn't mentioned.

Charlotte's parents were Andrew BELL and Margaret STINSON so Bernard shouldn't be a blood relative.

If Margaret Stinson or Andrew Bell had a sister who married Bernard Mullen, that makes Bernard her uncle....? It may not be as simple as that....Irish puzzles rarely are! Was in Derrygonnelly over the summer. My Irish lot are from just down the road!

Best wishes
Lesley

[LesleyB]

Bernard could also be a more distant uncle. I have a couple of Irish girls who refer to their "uncle" - but he is their mother's cousin.

[WilmaM]

My 'lot' seemed to wander around Derrygonnelly and E'killen - going from farm to farm elusive to say the least!

Even a tiny crack in this wall could prove a miracle...

[LesleyB]

Hi Wilma
The US census data for 1920 and 1930 might help with pinning them down a little. I know the ones I saw recently contained a lot of useful info which helped with some of my lot from just south of Derrygonnelly.

Best wishes
Lesley

[speleobat2]

Wilma,

Found this in the 1930 Census:

Charlotte Mills--Northern Ireland
Watertown, Middlesex, Massachusetts
28
Est. birth 1902
Wife
Frank--Canadian English-- Building industry--I think!
31

Archibald F. Mills 3 yrs 9 mon
Gerald R. 2 yrs 4 mon
Laurence W. 1 yr 2 mon
Florence V. 1 yr 6 mon

They are living on Edenfield Ave. in Watertown. The ages for the two youngest children probably contain a transcription error! The original is a little hard to read in spots.

There are many Bernard Mullen's in the 1920 and 1930 Census records for Mass. None that I saw in Newtonville, one in Newton. I don't know enough about Mass. to know if those are the same place. Maybe someone else can tell you.

Carol

[marilyn morning]

Hi Wilma,

Someone should be along soon who can do a 1930 census lookup for ya. ( I see Carol just granted your wish, as I'm posting this note ) I dropped my subscription
sometime ago. Meanwhile, I did some poking around and came up with a few clues to your puzzle.

I checked the SSDI on the LDS site and there was one listing for a Charlotte Mills, the date of birth
matches up, but she lived much longer then you've listed?

http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Search/ ... _form=true

Charlotte MILLS
Birth Date: 2 Aug 1902
Death Date: 31 Aug 1998
Social Security Number: 135-38-3186
State or Territory Where Number Was Issued: New Jersey

Death Residence Localities
ZIP Code: 02633
Localities: Chatham, Barnstable, Massachusetts



I'm not sure how familiar you are with the Social Security system in the US, so here's a link to look over

http://www.ssa.gov/history/hfaq.html

Mind you, not everyone in the US signed up for the Social Security Act of 1935. I know for a fact that my step father
didn't, because he was a State of Rhode Island employee and would collect a pension from the State. Back then he had the choice whether of not
to pay into the system. Today we don't have a choice. If Charlotte didn't contribute to the SSA of 1935, by deductions from her weekly
wages, she still would have been eligible to collect her husband's Social Security provided he had contributed into the system?

This was the only match that I found for a "Charlotte Mills" on the SSDI in Massachusetts. Barnstable is located approx 25- 35 miles East of
Newton and Watertown. Its very possible she moved there, lots of folk were starting to mirgrate to the tip of Cape Cod back in those days to
escape the heat of the City.

Newtonville and Watertown are both in Middlesex County, Massachusetts

http://www.buyzips.com/zip/Newtonville/ ... nville.htm

http://www.sec.state.ma.us/cis/cispdf/ma_counties.pdf

http://www.epodunk.com/cgi-bin/genInfo. ... Index=3180

There is a Charlotte Mills listed on the 1930 US Census, who matches the date of birth on the SSDI, I'm not sure if its her or not,
but you can take a look for yourself, its FREE. lol

http://www.ancestry.com/

Just scroll down to the 1930 US Census and plug in the name "Charlotte Mills and "Lived In" Massachusetts. There is only one match

Charlotte Mills
Age 28
b. abt 1902
Spouse: Frank
Middlesex, Massachusetts (Middlesex being the county, you call them shires)

You may be interested in contacting

http://www.raogk.org/listing.htm

and send an e-mail to Michael Brophy to see what info he could possibly help out with?

Here's his e-mail address

http://www.raogk.org/massachu.htm

And my last suggestion for tonight would be to contact the Boston Public Library to see how they may be able help you further along?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Public_Library

The e-mail address would be ask@bpl.org ATTENTION: SOCIAL SCIENCE

Oh and one last point is that all BMD's recorded in the State of Massachusetts up until 1910 (on line) to 1915 (able to view in person)
are recorded here

http://www.sec.state.ma.us/ARC/arcidx.htm

But after 1915 all of the BMD for the State of Massachusetts would need to be researched in person at

http://www.sec.state.ma.us/vitalrecords ... earch.aspx

Perhaps Michael from RAOGK maybe able to point you in the right direction to get some lookups on your family, certainly
they had children of their marriage? I myself would help, but I never get to Vital Records in Boston, only the archives. My Morning
family moved to Rhode Island around 1910.

Hopefully, you will find some of this information helpful.

Regards
Marilyn

[marilyn morning]

To follow up

Newton and Newtonville, Massachussetts are only 5 minutes apart and may considered as one, according to the representative in the research department of the Boston City Library, whom I spoke with tonight on the telephone. Its what I gathered, but I still wanted to double check.....

Regards
Marilyn

[gzmcwherter]

1930 Census: Newton, Middlesex [county], Massachusetts
Address: 52 Ashmont Avenue
Mullen, Bernard M, Head,... M, W, 62, M, 28, ... [b.] Northern Ireland, Northern Ireland, Northern Ireland, ...1890 [imm], Na, Gardner, Private family
Elizabeth, F,W, 62, M, 28,... Northern Ireland, Northern Ireland, Northern Ireland, ...1889, Na, None
Children:
Elizabeth 30, Mary R 27, Margaret 24 [all b. Massachusetts]

1920 Census: Newton, Ward 1, Middlesex [county], Massachusetts
Address: 11 Beech Street
Mullen, Barney, Head, ... M, W, 45, M 1890[imm], Na 1901, ..., [b.] Ireland, Ireland, Ireland,... Septon, Church
Elizabeth , Wife, F,E,50, M, 1888, Na, 1901, ..., Ireland, Ireland, Ireland, ...none
Children:
Katherine 21, Elizabeth 19, Mary 17, Margaret 14 [all b. Massachusetts]

1910 Census: Newton, Ward 1, Middlesex [county], Massachusetts
Address: 11 Beech Street
Mullen, Bernard, Head, M, W, 40, M1,[yrs. married] 14, [b.] Ireland, Ireland, Ireland,1890[imm], Na, ...,Watchman, ?...?mill
Elizabeth , Wife, F,E,40, M, 14, 6[children], 4 [still living], Ireland, Ireland, Ireland, 1888, ...none
Children:
Alice C 12, Elizabeth A 9, Mary J 7, Margaret C 4 [all b. Massachusetts]

Newton Directory 1901
p. 37, Allison, 85 Mullen Bernad, paper maker
Mullen Henry, paper maker, b.

1900 Census: Newton, Ward 1, Middlesex [county], Massachusetts
Address: 85 Allison Street
Mullen, Bernard, Head, W, M, [b.] _ 1875, 25 M, [yrs marr] 4, Ireland, Ireland, Ireland, 1890 [imm], 10 [yrs in US], Al, Papermaker, ...
Elizabeth A?, Wife,W, F, [b.] Feb 1870, 30, M, 4, 1, 1, Ireland, Ireland, Ireland, 1887, 13
Alice C , Daughter, W, F, Mar 1898, 2, S, [b.] Massachusetts
Mullen, Henry, Brother, W, M, [b.] _ 1880, 20, S, Ireland, Ireland, Ireland, 1899 [imm], 1 [yrs in US], Al, Papermill, ...
Canairy, Martin, Boarder, W, M, 21, S...

Newton Directory 1899
p. 58, Bridge, 139 Mullen Bernard, starchmkr.
Stinson Robt. starchmakr, b.
p. 549, S, Stinson Robert, starchmaker, boards 139 Bridge

Newton Directory 1897
p. 55 Bridge, 000 Mullen Bernard, starchmaker
p. 538, S, Stinson Lizzie, married to Bernard Mullen
Robert, starchmaker, boards 14 Cook

(This is the first time I have ever seen an entry like the above in a city directory. )

Regards,
Gina

[gzmcwherter]

Thought I'd take a quick look at the rest of the Newton directories for you. It looks as though they changed the spelling of their name. (There was another Bernard Mullen also married to an Elizabeth listed). Also see 1938 & 1909 for some death dates. Lost track of Robert Stinson quite early on though.

Newport Directory 1955
daughters listed at 193 Tremont but not Bernard

Newton Directory 1940-1953
listed as Mullan [sic] Bernard h 193 Tremont N

Newton Directory 1938
p. 464, Mullan [sic] Bernard gardnr h 52 Ashmont av
Eliz (Mrs Bernard) died Oct 9, 1937

Newton Directory 1923-1936
listed as Mullan [sic] Bernard gardener h 52 Ashmont av

Newton Directory 1921
p. Mullen Bernard gardener h 52 Ashmont av

Newton Directory 1919
p. 522, Mullen Bernard (Elizabeth) janitor Newtonville M E church h 11 Beech

Newton Directory 1915
p. 393, Mullen Bernard janitor Methodist Church Nv h 11 Beech

Newton Directory 1913
p. 517, Mullen Bernard janitor Methodist Church Nv h 11 Beech

Newton Directory 1911
p. 31, Beech, 11 Mullen Bernard watchman
p. 499, Mullen Bernard watchman (at Watertown) h 11 Beech
no Stinson Robert

Newton Directory 1909
p. 46, Beech, 11 Mullen Bernard papermaker
p. 499, Mullen Bernard papermaker 11 Beech
Henry died March 3 1907 age 28
p. 585, Stinson Robert laborer bds 13 Maguire ct

Newton Directory 1907
p. 45, Beech, 11 Mullen Bernard papermaker
" Henry laborer b
p. 473, Mullen Bernard paper maker h 11 Beech
" Henry laborer bds 11 Beech
no Stinson Robert

Newton Directory 1905
p. 49, Beech, 11 Mullen Bernard papermaker
Mullen Henry papermaker b
p. 513, Mullen Bernard paper maker h 11 Beech
Henry paper maker bds 11 Beech
no Stinson Robert

Newton Directory 1903
p. 48, Beech, 11 Mullen Bernard, papermaker
p. 503, Mullen Bernard, paper maker, h. 11 Beech
no Mullen Henry
no Stinson Robert

Newton Directory 1901
p. 37, Allison, 85 Mullen Bernard, starchmkr.
Henry starchmakr, b.
p. 461, Mullen Bernard, paper maker, house 85 Allison
Henry, paper maker, boards 85 Allison
no Stinson Robert

Newton Directory 1899
p. 58, Bridge, 139 Mullen Bernard, starchmkr.
Stinson Robt. starchmakr, b.
p. 481, M, Mullen Bernard, starchmaker, house 139 Bridge
p. 549, S, Stinson Robert, starchmaker, boards 139 Bridge

Newton Directory 1897
p. 55 Bridge, 000 Mullen Bernard, starchmaker
p. 466, M, Mullen Bernard, starchmaker, house Bridge n. Watertown
p. 538, S, Stinson Lizzie, married to Bernard Mullen
Robert, starchmaker, boards 14 Cook