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Evans family in Los Angeles.

Post by Currie » Wed Apr 07, 2010 9:05 am

May I be so bold as to impose on some kind soul?

I have some questions concerning the family of Ebenezer D. Evans b.1848, Wisconsin and his wife Catherine W. Evans (nee Evans) b.1851, Wisconsin. They married in 1873. Ebenezer died in Wisconsin in 1896 and according to his Obit in an Oshkosh newspaper was survived by a wife and five daughters. His widow and children moved to Los Angeles, California, about 1899.

The 1900 census record is as follows:
1900 United States Census
48B Precinct, Los Angeles township, California, 533 Crocker Street.
Name, Relation, Marital Status, Date Born, Age, Place Born, Occupation, Father Born, Mother Born
Catharine W. EVANS, Head, W, Mar 1851, 49, WIS, Mgs Conseirge, WALES, WALES
Elizabeth EVANS, Dtr, S, Sept 1874, 25, WIS, Book Keeper, WIS, WIS
Eunice Evans, Dtr, S, Apl 1876, 24, WIS, Milliner, WIS, WIS
Sarah Evans, Dtr, S, Apl 1879, 21, WIS, Stenographer, WIS, WIS
Esther Evans, Dtr, S, Nov 1884, 15, WIS, Clerk Press Bureau, WIS , WIS
Kate Evans, Dtr, S, Mar 1890, 10, MIN, At school, WIS, WIS

Elizabeth Ann Evans married John E. West on 1 June 1905 in L.A.. She died on 15 March, 1907, and was buried in Evergreen Cemetery. Her husband had predeceased her.

The mother, Catherine, died on 10th June, 1919. Her obit in the L.A. Times said that she was of 214 Branch Street, had left two daughters, Mrs. D. E. Morgan, of 218 Branch street and Catherine Evans Skow (looks like), the latter being her mother’s companion in her last days, besides four granddaughters and three grandsons. She was interred in Evergreen Cemetery “where three daughters and a son-in-law now sleep.”
http://s944.photobucket.com/albums/ad28 ... sEvans.jpg

It looks as though daughters Eunice and Esther also died between 1900 and 1919 and they and Elizabeth and her husband are the ones in Evergreen Cemetery. I have my doubts about the daughter Catherine being married to a Mr. Skow as she wasn’t referred to as Mrs. and in 1930 her married name is Williams, so perhaps that’s a newspaper error.

Sarah Ellen Evans married David Edwin Morgan on 21 June, 1905, and in 1930 they, and their daughter Elizabeth, are living at 218, Branch Street, L.A. He was born 1876, Ohio. Sarah Morgan died in 1941 and in her obit left husband, two daughters and a sister, Mrs. Richard J. Williams of L.A. One daughter, Catherine Eunice Morgan, born 1908, married 1929, and the other, Elizabeth Evans Morgan, born 1909, married 1933.

In 1930 Catherine (Kate b.1890) is living with her husband Richard J. Williams at what looks like 4237, York Blvd., L.A. No children with them. He was born 1877 in Wales. Her age at first marriage is given as 27 (1917). Catherine’s death appears to be in the California death index, and much later than Sarah.

All the daughters are more or less accounted for, but of the ‘four granddaughters and three grandsons’ only two granddaughters, the two daughters of Sarah Evans, have been identified. Elizabeth could not have managed more than one or two and perhaps Eunice and Esther married and had some before they too died.

So the questions are:
1. Does the 1910 and 1920 census reveal any information about whether Catherine Evans was actually married to a Mr. Skow before Mr. Williams?
2. Who owned the other grandchildren mentioned in the 1919 obit?
3. Are there any clues as to a marriage of Eunice and/or Esther?

All assistance gratefully received, and sorry about the usual epic,
Alan

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Re: Evans family in Los Angeles.

Post by marilyn morning » Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:30 pm

Hi Currie,

Find a grave has a listing for Evergreen Cemetery in LA, I've not the time to investigate right now, but here's the link. Maybe there are some hidden answers to your questions in the cemetery records?

http://www.findagrave.com/php/famous.ph ... eryid=7964

http://www.evergreen-losangeles.com/about.html

Regards
Marilyn

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Re: Evans family in Los Angeles.

Post by SarahND » Wed Apr 07, 2010 3:54 pm

Hi Alan,
Here's a start:

In 1920 the adjacent households on Branch St look like this:
218 Branch St
David E Morgan, Head, 43, born Ohio, Salesman in lumber yard
Sarah Morgan, wife, 40, born Wisconsin
Annice Morgan, 12, born California
Elizabeth Morgan, 10, born California

214 Branch
Catherine W Evans, Head, 29, born Minnesota
Elmer Jenkins, Nephew, 13, born California

206 Branch St
Florence M Jenkins, Head, 71, widow, born Illinois

No sign of a Skow surname for Catherine and young Elmer as one of the grandsons, perhaps.

In 1910 Elmer above is possibly David E Jenkins in the household of four children of:

Jenkin E Jenkins, Head, 37, Ohio, Wales, Wales, Ticket Agent, Railroad
Ester Jenkins, Wife, 26, Wisconsin, Wisconsin, Wisconsin
Arthur E age 6
David E age 3
Howard S, age 1 1/2
Ruth E age 5/12

All the best,
Sarah

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Re: Evans family in Los Angeles.

Post by SarahND » Wed Apr 07, 2010 4:07 pm

Continuing...

In 1920
Esther's son Arthur is with his paternal uncle Thomas Jenkins
Howard is a boarder in Escondido with Robert T Jones from Wales and his wife Elizabeth J, born Wisconsin, parents born Wales.
No sign of young Ruth E so far in 1920. I wonder if she survived...

Sarah

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Re: Evans family in Los Angeles.

Post by SarahND » Wed Apr 07, 2010 5:16 pm

Still at this...

In 1910 Catherine is already saying that she has only 3 living children out of 5. So Eunice must have died between 1900 and 1910. Indeed, I suspect she died between 1900 and 1904, since I can't find her in the 1905-1929 death index at http://www.vitalsearch-ca.com.

Daughter Catherine is still single and with her mother in 1910. It is suggestive that she says in 1930 that her first marriage was at age 27. If so, she must have been rapidly divorced. I would suspect divorced rather than widowed, since in the 1920 census she is back to her maiden name and says she is single.

Looking at Catherine's 1890 birth in Minnesota, I had a look in the MN directories:

Name: Ebenezer D Evans
Location 2: r 1812 E 22d
Business Name: John D Evans & Co
Year: 1890, 1891
City: Minneapolis
State: MN

Does the name John D Evans ring a bell? In 1900 he says he was born in 1847 in Wales and also came to the U.S. that same year. Ebenezer's brother?

Here are a couple more directory results:

Name: John D Evans
Location 2: r 924 19th avenue s
Business Name: John D Evans & Co
Year: 1890, 1891
City: Minneapolis
State: MN

Name: John D; Ebenezer D Evans
Location 1: 1847 Franklin avenue n e
Business Name: Evans John D & Co
Occupation: com
Year: 1890, 1891
City: Minneapolis
State: MN

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Re: Evans family in Los Angeles.

Post by Currie » Thu Apr 08, 2010 4:38 am

Hello Marilyn,

Thanks for that information. I checked, but unfortunately no luck. There’s a lot of buried talent in that place.

Hello Sarah,

Thanks very much for your usual expert attention. That’s taken quite a chop out of the missing grandchildren.

I just tried to access the L.A. Times to check for the Jenkins family but couldn’t logon. I hope my library hasn’t dropped the subscription because there was only one person using it. It was ok a couple of days ago.

John D. Evans was an elder brother of Ebenezer. Here’s a photo of Ebenezer I found in a Gold Mine at the University of Wisconsin. http://digicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi-bi ... 6&isize=XL

Vitalsearch looks interesting, I’ll register and have a dig.

Thanks again and all the best,
Alan

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Re: Evans family in Los Angeles.

Post by SarahND » Thu Apr 08, 2010 6:02 am

Hi Alan,
The Wisconsin Historical Society Library at the University in Madison is a wonderful place for genealogical research-- Let's hope they get more things online so people like you can access them. If I get down there one of these days I'll let you know.

Great photo!
Sarah

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Re: Evans family in Los Angeles.

Post by trish1 » Thu Apr 08, 2010 8:28 am

Hi Alan & Sarah

I did try and find some of the family on the 1910/1920 without success - Sarah could you tell me the name under which you found Catherine in 1910? I have only this year had access to the US census data and am trying to get more skillful at finding folks - for some reason I seem to find it more difficult than searching the UK Census.

I love the Photo of Ebenezer - a most handsome man - hope the genes carried forward :D

Trish

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Re: Evans family in Los Angeles.

Post by Currie » Thu Apr 08, 2010 10:43 am

Hello Trish,

Thanks for having a go for me. Practice makes perfect.

I think mother and daughter were living together in 1910, and down as Cathrine Evans and Cathrine W Evans.

I don’t think Ebenezer’s genes ever got to me. They would have had to have run in reverse for a couple of generations before they could head my way and it looks like they couldn’t manage it.

All the best,
Alan

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Re: Evans family in Los Angeles.

Post by SarahND » Thu Apr 08, 2010 1:42 pm

Hi Trish,
trish1 wrote:Sarah could you tell me the name under which you found Catherine in 1910?
Both were under Cathrine with no 'e' in the middle. I believe I avoided the first name altogether and searched for ev?ns born in Wisconsin in 1851 +/- 2 years, living in California. If there had been too many, I would have added Los Angeles County. Too few and I would have expanded the age to +/-5 or taken out the age altogether. Searching in the U.S. it really helps to know the county names, since the township or city boundaries can change or, in the older censuses and rural areas be missing altogether.

A handy tool for finding out the county if you only know the town is the Rootsweb U. S. Town/County Database. http://resources.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ ... townco.cgi
Put in the town name, with or without a state abbreviation, and it will give you the county name. Since many town names are repeated in many states across the country, it does help if you know the state abbreviation. They are easy to find by a quick google, e.g. this site chosen at random: http://www.stateabbreviations.us/

Well, you asked a simple question and I started off to give a lecture :roll: But maybe there is something useful here :D

All the best,
Sarah