Shathley Heenes.....

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Post by WilmaM » Mon Jul 18, 2005 2:26 pm

JustJean wrote:....but then who really wants to say they were born in Dull!! 8) :wink:
Jean
Well, is it better than " STIX " ? that's just to the south west of Dull :shock:

I hope you find it Andrew - you've got me intrigued !
Wilma

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Post by AndrewP » Mon Jul 18, 2005 2:39 pm

I've searched a number of the old maps. Dull is a complex parish to study. Prior to the parish boundaries being straightened out by the Local Government (Scotland) Act 1889 [seemed to take effect about 1892-1893], Dull parish consisted of many fragments of land.

There are as yet no obvious contenders for Shathley Heenes.

All the best,

Andrew Paterson

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Post by DavidWW » Mon Jul 18, 2005 4:03 pm

AndrewP wrote:.....snipped ........ There are as yet no obvious contenders for Shathley Heenes.
I await with considerable interest the results of your viewing of the original microfilm :!: :roll:

Davie

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Post by AndrewP » Mon Jul 18, 2005 4:13 pm

DavidWW wrote:I await with considerable interest the results of your viewing of the original microfilm :!: :roll:
So do I :!: . I hope to view the microfilm at NRH (soon, I hope), so that if that is difficult to read, I should be able to consult the original book.

All the best,

Andrew Paterson

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Post by MaryE » Mon Jul 18, 2005 9:19 pm

Hi Andrew

Do you think Shathley could be Strathtay? Dull is on the River Tay and the general area along the river to the east of Dull seems to be known as Strath Tay. Also, just a couple of miles to the east of Dull is the tiny village of Weem. A 'W' could fairly easily be mistranscribed as an 'H', an 'm' as an 'ne' and a flourish of the pen at the end could easily make an 's' so Weem to Heenes is not unlikely - especially when you think of some of the other transcriptions we come across :)

So perhaps 'Shathley Heenes' should be 'Strathtay, Weem'? I'll be interested to see what the original book shows!

Mary

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Post by DavidWW » Tue Jul 19, 2005 9:19 am

MaryE wrote:Hi Andrew

Do you think Shathley could be Strathtay? Dull is on the River Tay and the general area along the river to the east of Dull seems to be known as Strath Tay. Also, just a couple of miles to the east of Dull is the tiny village of Weem. A 'W' could fairly easily be mistranscribed as an 'H', an 'm' as an 'ne' and a flourish of the pen at the end could easily make an 's' so Weem to Heenes is not unlikely - especially when you think of some of the other transcriptions we come across :)

So perhaps 'Shathley Heenes' should be 'Strathtay, Weem'? I'll be interested to see what the original book shows!

Mary
Wow :!: Looks like a good suggestion \:D/

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Post by AndrewP » Tue Jul 19, 2005 5:27 pm

MaryE wrote:Hi Andrew

Do you think Shathley could be Strathtay? Dull is on the River Tay and the general area along the river to the east of Dull seems to be known as Strath Tay. Also, just a couple of miles to the east of Dull is the tiny village of Weem. A 'W' could fairly easily be mistranscribed as an 'H', an 'm' as an 'ne' and a flourish of the pen at the end could easily make an 's' so Weem to Heenes is not unlikely - especially when you think of some of the other transcriptions we come across :)

So perhaps 'Shathley Heenes' should be 'Strathtay, Weem'? I'll be interested to see what the original book shows!

Mary
Mary wins the coconut (first prize). I went into NRH this afternoon and looked at the microfilm. The writing was clear enough that the book wasn't required.

Perthshire Strathtay Weenes is what was written. I am happy to accept that the enumerator in Calderbank, Old Monkland was not familiar with Weem and it was recorded as Weenes. The Strathtay was for definite. The centre part of the W in "Weenes" was very faint, and I can see there the indexed name Heenes came from. NRH has that on their 1881 index - must be from the same source information as used by the LDS.

Thanks and all the best,

Andrew Paterson

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Post by Jack » Tue Jul 19, 2005 8:38 pm

Hi Andrew,

I'd a look at it too this afternoon - didn't even need the magnifying glasss.

Perthshire Strathtay Weenes

So a well deserved coconut for Mary :lol:

Jack

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Post by MaryE » Tue Jul 19, 2005 8:49 pm

Hi Andrew

Glad you got it sorted out. Like you, I'm something of a map addict and always enjoy browsing one. Used to be something of a joke that my favourite bedtime reading was the road atlas and the national rail timetable :oops:

Mary

PS Please can I swap the coconut for a bar of chocolate? Never have been able to eat coconut :(

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Post by DavidWW » Tue Jul 19, 2005 11:07 pm

MaryE wrote:....snipped.......PS Please can I swap the coconut for a bar of chocolate? Never have been able to eat coconut :(
Sounds reasonable to me :!: =D> \:D/ =D>

Davie