What is this word? Is it a name? Is it a place?

The History and Geography of Auld Scotia

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Archiver
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Post by Archiver » Wed Aug 16, 2006 3:34 pm

CatrionaL wrote:Archiver

I put Carnbesson into www.multimap.com and came up with a peak in the Cairngorms near Braemar: Carn a' Bhacain.. I wonder now.......

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Catriona
Ooh, thank you! I wonder if that is it? It certainly seems possible!

Now to find out who the 'gudman' could have been :D
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Post by Archiver » Wed Aug 16, 2006 3:36 pm

DavidWW wrote:Hi Archiver

Fit like?
Archiver wrote:I am guessing here that this place may be in the parish of Kearn, in Aberdeenshire. I'm going to trawl through the maps, and see what I can find!
Aye weel, possible, but I wouldn't rely on it .............. it's an awfy long way frae Aiberdeen City, - as far as it's possible to be frae Aiberdeen but still in the county.
Archiver wrote:Scotsorigins threw up a couple of other interesting names, but unfortunately nothing sounding like 'besson'. I've tried to say it in my strongest Aberdeen accent, but I just can't work out what it sounds like...basin was the only one that popped into my head.
Ah-hah!, - a local !

Seriously, this is a very valuable technique.

I can't remember the weird and wonderful spelling involved ("Fohaberts" ??, or something similar), but, a few years ago, when using the technique, I could only conclude that the place name involved was Fochabers, and it was !!
Archiver wrote: I do like distractions like this though! It's not all that important that I find this place, but my curiosity has got the better of me!
I know the feeling :wink:

David
Yes, a half-local I suppose! Not originally from here, but brought up in Banchory from the age of 8, moved to Aberdeen to go to university, and haven't left yet. I'm still a young-un though, so there's plenty time!

That's a brilliant spelling for Fochabers. It's Findochty that gets me - Finnechty is the pronounciation!
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Post by DavidWW » Wed Aug 16, 2006 4:57 pm

Archiver wrote:David
Yes, a half-local I suppose! Not originally from here, but brought up in Banchory from the age of 8, moved to Aberdeen to go to university, and haven't left yet. I'm still a young-un though, so there's plenty time!
While Banchory might not be seen as qualifying you as Aiberdonian, I'm sure that we'd all defer to a Banchory interpretation of The Doric :!:
Archiver wrote:That's a brilliant spelling for Fochabers. It's Findochty that gets me - Finnechty is the pronounciation!
There are similar situations all over Auld Scotia, - not least "Milngavie" and many such equivalent !!

David

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Post by scml » Fri Aug 18, 2006 2:28 pm

Hi Archiver,

I had a look for the name Kearnebesson on http://multimap.com and by changing the K to a C this name came up:
Carn a'Bhacain in Aberdeenshire.
Might be worth looking at :)
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Post by emanday » Fri Aug 18, 2006 3:15 pm

That "Milngavie", together with a few others, gave me no end of trouble while I was on a contract in Amsterdam for six months.

My clients were a joint venture between the Dutch telecomms company and an American IT company, and the Americans simply could not understand how all the Scots contractors could justify the pronunciation of that and ones like Dalziel.

Just to confuse them even further, one of the Scottish contractors was born in Moscow. We had to dig out a map to prove it WAS in Scotland. :lol:
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Post by DavidWW » Fri Aug 18, 2006 3:21 pm

emanday wrote:That "Milngavie", together with a few others, gave me no end of trouble while I was on a contract in Amsterdam for six months.

My clients were a joint venture between the Dutch telecomms company and an American IT company, and the Americans simply could not understand how all the Scots contractors could justify the pronunciation of that and ones like Dalziel.

Just to confuse them even further, one of the Scottish contractors was born in Moscow. We had to dig out a map to prove it WAS in Scotland. :lol:
Of course it is :!: , in North Ayrshire, very close to the production centre for Dunlop Cheese :!: :shock:

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Post by emanday » Fri Aug 18, 2006 3:40 pm

Yes, David, I dare say most Scots know that, but try and tell a Yank that it is true without a handy map. :?
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Post by DavidWW » Fri Aug 18, 2006 4:39 pm

And how about Dallas ?!,

..never mind the Montrose area surname, - Buick !!

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Post by emanday » Fri Aug 18, 2006 6:52 pm

Question is? Who had a Moscow first :D :?:
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Post by Russell » Fri Aug 18, 2006 8:18 pm

Now, now Mary

Nae international politics here !

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