To -shire or not to -shire?

Post by **Tracey** » Sun Nov 26, 2006 4:47 pm

Then thank you David for the correct explanation.

Post by **SarahND** » Sun Nov 26, 2006 5:16 pm

I did enjoy that, David!!! Lovely rant!!

- elecutionists were imported to Edinburgh from London to teach folk how to speak proper , - seriously !!

Horror!!! Thank goodness they didn't reach farther north

My husband still speaks lyrically about listening to the folk chatting in the Aberdeen Archives

He could hardly keep his mind on the Deed books he was supposed to be helping me with

A real picnic for a couple of linguists-- lovely to hear, thanks Archiver & Co!

I'm getting a sense for the shire thing now and am glad I asked the question. Still don't know why it gets the folks all worked up down in Exetershire, though

Regards,
Sarah

DavidWW · Post by **DavidWW** » Sun Nov 26, 2006 5:57 pm

SarahND wrote:I did enjoy that, David!!! Lovely rant!!

Awfy guid tae hear that you did enjoy my rant !!

SarahND wrote:- elecutionists were imported to Edinburgh from London to teach folk how to speak proper , - seriously !!

SarahND wrote:Horror!!! Thank goodness they didn't reach farther north My husband still speaks lyrically about listening to the folk chatting in the Aberdeen Archives He could hardly keep his mind on the Deed books he was supposed to be helping me with A real picnic for a couple of linguists-- lovely to hear, thanks Archiver & Co!

Aiberdeen speak is something quite unique !! - The Doric as it is known !!

SarahND wrote:I'm getting a sense for the shire thing now and am glad I asked the question. Still don't know why it gets the folks all worked up down in Exetershire, though

Regards,
Sarah

Intriguing, ain't it just in terms of how folk get so worked up about "Exetershire" or, for that matter, "Buteshire", etc. ......

I'm perfectly relaxed about whatever usage folks are content with, as long as they realise the correct historical context and usage ............

David

Post by **SarahND** » Sun Nov 26, 2006 7:12 pm

DavidWW wrote:Intriguing, ain't it just in terms of how folk get so worked up about "Exetershire" or, for that matter, "Buteshire", etc. ......

Actually, as I think about it, it is usually folk from other areas (say, London...) who get worked up about "Devonshire". I have always found the folk in Devon to be easy-going and flexible, and I've spent a lot of time there, since my surname comes from that area.

DavidWW wrote:I'm perfectly relaxed about whatever usage folks are content with, as long as they realise the correct historical context and usage

It's more interesting when you know the history of it anyway. Isn't that the fun of genealogical research as opposed to date collecting?

Regards,
Sarah

DavidWW · Post by **DavidWW** » Mon Nov 27, 2006 8:42 pm

Hmmmmm..........

One of the books that I'm currently reading is Frances Dow's "Cromwellian Scotland", - quite heavy stuff in terms of the content, - a chapter at most at a time is my limit .........

The reason for mentioning this book in this thread is that it occurs to me that it could well have been the case in terms of the Cromwellian interlude - The (English) Commonealth, - 1637 to 1660. as regard the distinctly English administration of Scottish affairs, that the term "shire" was used in relation to Scottish counties.

David

Post by **SarahND** » Mon Nov 27, 2006 10:33 pm

Sounds a likely possiblity, if the shire business began that soon in Scotland. Of course, there were also plenty of other times later when the English imposed their ways on the Scots...

Regards,
Sarah