Where is Malgrundour?

[LesleyB]

Good find there, Alan.

Biographical Index of South Australians 1836-1885, SA Genealogy & Heraldry Soc, 1986

So this is maybe the "Bio index" that was referred to.
And thanks to Alex's find it looks like the mystery place may be in Dumfriesshire...

Best wishes
Lesley

[Currie]

Thanks Lesley,

(Would it help if one of the threads were locked with a final note referring to the other thread? Maybe all the posts from that thread could be pasted into a single highlighted Admin post on the other thread if that were practicable. It will still be a bit confusing but at least the problem wouldn't continue. Unless there are other potential problems it might be worth consideration. Just a thought.)

You would think that the place name spellings, Malgrundour and Maulgundor, being very similar and from separate sources, would be close to correct.

I had a trawl through the 4 segments of the very detailed 1828 map of Dumfries at http://www.nls.uk/maps/early/555.html and couldn’t find anything like it (although I may have nodded off a couple of times during the process). What’s more the name seemed so out of character with all the other names I came across.

I searched the IGI for a John Wylie birth in 1818+/- 2 and there were 129 for the whole of Scotland, of which there were 66 for Ayr, 19 for Renfrew, 14 for Argyle, 12 for Lanark and 10 for Dumfries. All other Shires were usually no higher than 2.

Assuming this was a reasonably representative sample, that place is very probably in Ayrshire and not Dumfriesshire with a much smaller chance for Renfrew, Argyle and Lanark.

So, Orchard, you might get put out of your misery by having a trawl through this map of Ayrshire. http://www.nls.uk/maps/early/547.html

If you have any problems with that please post again and I might even do it myself.

All the best,
Alan

[nelmit]

How sure are you that they emigrated in 1839?

There is a christening of a Jane Wylie in Dumfries in 1841 - child of John Wylie and Mary Porter.

I think this could be them in the census.

Piece: SCT1841/814 Place: Canonbie -Dumfries-shire Enumeration District: 10
Civil Parish: Canonbie Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 10 Page: 7
Address: Grindstone

Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born
WYLLIE John M 20 Agricultural Labourer Dumfries-shire
WYLLIE Mary F 20 England
WYLLIE Jane F 2m Dumfries-shire
COLLINS William M 20 Agricultural Labourer England

I think it may be worth a look at the birth entry on SP even if it is to rule them out. It may tell you nothing but you never know.

Kind regards,
Annette M

Later - just saw Alan's post re arrival in Australia. So it's definitely not them.