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The History and Geography of Auld Scotia

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JustJean
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Post by JustJean » Thu Apr 27, 2006 5:40 pm

You know I'm starting to see a real pattern developing here. I don't think it's me needing to learn pronunciation. I think it's the Scots needing to learn how to spell :shock:

This is turning into far more than I imagined..... :roll:

Best wishes
Jean

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Post by LesleyB » Thu Apr 27, 2006 6:11 pm

Oh I forgot re. Auchtermuchty.

As far as I've heard, no one round here actually calls it that - so if you want to sound like a local, you'd call it Muchty! (only one chhh sound to deal with too!!)

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Post by Guest » Thu Apr 27, 2006 6:51 pm

Sorry, but I can't stand by on this one.

Kirkcaldy - it has to be KIRR CAWDI
Anstruther - ENNSTUR
St Monans (used to be St Monance ) - SINT MINNANZ
and please, please.
The town is called LEEVEN - never LEHVEN
and of course, Buckhaven - Buckhynd.

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Post by JustJean » Thu Apr 27, 2006 6:59 pm

:? Now I think someone is playing games with me!! How can it be Kirk a day on one side of the country and Kirr Cawdi on the other???!!!!!! :shock:

Leven......I would've said like leavening in the bread so 0 points for that! Got to think "Leavin' on a Jet Plane...don't know when I'll be back again....."

So Haven is really Hynd.....tell me...do you ever say HAY VEN???? or is that one out of the question?? Or do you just make it Hynd 'cause it's quicker off the tongue???

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Jean

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Post by LesleyB » Thu Apr 27, 2006 7:14 pm

I'd go with KIRR CAWDI.
But "Kirk a day" is also correct as long as you put the emphasis on the middle bit - Kirk aaaaaw dy. :lol:

Its difficult this - typing the sounds - we need to make you a language CD to listen to in the car.... like ecoutez e repetez, ken. "Richt hen, listen tae these place names an' repeat... " :lol:
do you ever say HAY VEN????
I think Stonehaven is said like it looks, but you're heading for the land of quines and loons by then, so I don't really know.

from the Doric dialect (used in the North East of Scotland),
quine - a girl, young woman
loon - a boy, young man

Hmmm. Just found this - you might find it useful...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/scotland/whereiliv ... ents.shtml
on the right you can choose different areas of Scotland and you can listen to examples!!

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Post by Guest » Thu Apr 27, 2006 7:34 pm

We called it BUCK HAY VEN when we went to school, but BUCK HYND when we actually visited the place. They even built a pub called the 'Buck and Hind', complete with Bambi sign.
We all kept a few names in reserve. The tiny area jammed between Methil and Leven is variously referred to as Innerleven, Dubbieside, Kinnarchie, Cauldcoits, Aberhill, and Bayview (which moved from the top of the hill down to the shore). There may be a few more names lost in there.
How many names can you claim for one place?

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Re: Ehhhh?

Post by sporran » Thu Apr 27, 2006 7:44 pm

Hello Jean,


looks like Ayr and Dundee are the only places that you can visit without offending some dialect.


Regards from Lem-ster,

John

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Post by nelmit » Thu Apr 27, 2006 10:18 pm

Jean,

You've really started something now!
A couple of my favourites for you to try:

Culross and Strathaven.

Regards,
Annette M

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Post by JustJean » Thu Apr 27, 2006 11:07 pm

Well....phew....what an afternoon! I was typing a reply to this thread and when I clicked send....NOTHING HAPPENED! How dreadful it was too. I'm sure it was the most wittiest remarks I'd come up with all day...and now all is lost......... :lol: .............but..............thankfully TalkingScot is not lost!! For those who were trying to log on or make a post for oh half hour or so earlier today and were unable to....you were not alone! :shock:

We experienced some sort of mysterious force field that surrounded our website and refused admittance to all who dared come near. :shock: And then >*poof*< and with a wave of an invisible wand...all was made well again. That's my story and I'm sticking with it :lol:

I wiz gonnae ask Dave If they used Bambi for the BUCK whit they pictured oan the sign to represent the HIND :roll:

Nelmit....I think CULROSS must be COO ROW in keeping with other previously unknown and now discovered conventions.... As for STRATHAVEN.....Hah...this is gonna be a trick one I can Tell!! :lol: How about STRAT HAN???????

Now some more for all of you guid folk

Balquhidder

Dalbeattie

Fochabers (go ahead...I really wanna hear this one :lol: )

Ochiltree

Uist


Let's hear from the experts on these!

Best wishes
Jean

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Post by Russell » Fri Apr 28, 2006 12:15 am

Lets take these ones on Jean

Balwhidder
Dalbeattie just as it looks
Fochabur
Owechiltree
Youist (Uibhist a Tuath) = [North Uist]
These are easy ones and now you know Kinlochleven.Emphasize the 'le' part.

Were you offered Ecchlefechan? Manage that and you get the Gold Medal.
Don't try to extrapolate rules for pronunciation 'cos there are none. At least not consistent ones and locals always prefer if you 'Do it my way!'

In Caithness a nice easy name like Halkirk becomes Huhkirk and in Stirlingshire - Drymen is Drimmen with no emphasis on either syllable.

Confused?? I'm sure there are more to come. :lol:

Russell
Working on: Oman, Brock, Miller/Millar, in Caithness.
Roan/Rowan, Hastings, Sharp, Lapraik in Ayr & Kirkcudbrightshire.
Johnston, Reside, Lyle all over the place !
McGilvray(spelt 26 different ways)
Watson, Morton, Anderson, Tawse, in Kilrenny