DISTRICT OF KILMUIR

wini · Post by **wini** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 10:57 am

Kilmuir in the County of Inverness.

In BC's DC's etc. in column When & Where Born or died I have numerous different locations such as

Totescore
Linicro
Gerramore
Bailgowan?
Bornesketag?
Loch
Hungladder?
Monkstodt?

Are they hamlets??
Is there a map online showing these places?

Thanks Wini

DavidWW · Post by **DavidWW** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 11:46 am

Go to http://www.nls.uk/maps/early/os_scotlan ... _list.html and click on Sheet 90, and this will give you a good part of Kilmuir parish, which certainly contains Hungladder, - you'll need to use the zoom function and do a bit of exploring.

There are probably also small parts of the parish on sheets 80 and 81.

http://www.nls.uk/maps/early/514.html is also worth a look.

David

Post by **AndrewP** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 12:44 pm

Hi Wini,

Yes these places are all there in Kilmuir (Isle of Skye), Inverness-shire (not to be confused with Kilmuir Easter or Kilmuir Wester in Ross & Cromarty). The spelling varies quite a bit, but is mostly recognisable on sheet 90 as given by David above.

Totscore
Linicro
(no sign of Gerramore)
Balgown
Bornaskitaig
(no sign of Loch)
Hunglader
Monkstadt

They appear to be crofting townships - clusters of small farms grouped together - not villages or hamlets as such.

To see them on a current map, go to:
http://www.streetmap.co.uk
Search for Hungladder
Some of the places can be seen on that section of map. Most of the others are south of there - click on the arrow at the bottom centre of the map.

All the best,

AndrewP

DavidWW · Post by **DavidWW** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 4:09 pm

wini wrote:Kilmuir in the County of Inverness.

In BC's DC's etc. in column When & Where Born or died I have numerous different locations such as

Totescore
Linicro
Gerramore
Bailgowan?
Bornesketag?
Loch
Hungladder?
Monkstodt?

Are they hamlets??
Is there a map online showing these places?

Thanks Wini

Sound of distant trumpets, from the 1881 census coming to our assistance yet again. While part place names can be searched at ScotsOrigins, I find the wildcard facilities on the LDS 1881 CDs extremely powerful.

This is a very neat demonstration of the great value of using the 1881 census CDs in this manner

In this case they result in .......

Totescore - 17 households; several farmers, some cottars, a tailor and a shoemaker.

Linicro - as Linacro, 9 households; several cottars, a shepherd, a shoemaker, and a grocer.

Gerramore - or Geramore - 9 households; mostly crofters plus a herd.

Bailgowan? - as Balgowan, - 12 households; 2 merchants, a piper, a farmer, several crofters, a schoolmaster, and a minister.

Bornesketag, no census entries with this in the address, but 3 households where it occurs in the place of birth info.

Loch - no trace of a matching address in Kilmuir in Skye.

Hungladder? - as Hungletter; mostly cottars and some farmers, plus 2 wool weavers, and a shoemaker.

Monkstodt? - as Monkstod;- 3 households; a farmer, a grive and a labourer.

From all this information one can start to make some deductions as to the sizes of the places involved, e.g. a fermtoun or a cottoun wouldn't normally have more than a handful of families, - but the latter might well have a shoemaker or similar also resident there.

Please note that, in the above listings, I've only included the occupation reported for the Head of Household.

Note also that the acreage reported for "farmers" is quite low, so that they may be, in reality, no more than "large" crofters.

Given the presence there of a minister, a schoolteacher, and a piper (:!:) , it looks like Balgowan was the local "capital", so to speak.

But before drawing any final conclusions, however, I've no idea what households are missing from my search due to spelling variants of placenames that my wildcard searches did not pick up.

In addition, there are several instances where there are a number of farmers, who obviously wouldn't live close to each other, but in a farmhouse on their own land, with the place reported in the census being the nearest concentration of population, - in other words, there wasn't a fermtoun centred on their farm(s).

The "solution" to the situation in terms of understanding it better, is for someone to look through the complete 1881 and other censuses for Kilmuir (Skye), including in particular the enumerators' descriptions of the area covered by each enumeration district.

David

wini · Post by **wini** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 4:07 am

Thank you Andrew ad David.

I just find it hard to come to terms with larger populations in the highlands than I ever envisaged

I know Totescore was still there in the forties because I visited some relations there but I can't remember anything about it except reading the bible on Sunday and going to church and not being allowed to go out and play.
Very somber relatives

wini

DavidWW · Post by **DavidWW** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 11:27 am

wini wrote:Thank you Andrew ad David.

I just find it hard to come to terms with larger populations in the highlands than I ever envisaged

I know Totescore was still there in the forties because I visited some relations there but I can't remember anything about it except reading the bible on Sunday and going to church and not being allowed to go out and play.
Very somber relatives

wini

Play

, on The Sabbath,

, - naw, naw, sit indoors reading, - sometimes restricted to the Holy Bible. Men shaved late on Saturday evening, and food preparation was also carried out on the Saturday evening. As late as 1982 I was staying at a B&B in Skye, - the landlady was English, and acknowledged that she regularly scandalised her wee Free neighbours by hanging out washing on the The Sabbath, - the "Sunday interlude" in the film Whisky Galore! wasn't a joke but a reflection of reality.

dww

wini · Post by **wini** » Sat Dec 30, 2006 10:16 am

Yes David

and the Peat had to be got in on Saturday as well as the Porridge made.

Not much fun for a 4year old from Glasgow.

wini

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