Sex lies and statisticts

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Davie
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Sex lies and statisticts

Post by Davie » Sat Jan 06, 2007 12:08 pm

Ah knew that topic wid get yer attention.

I have been tell’t that the tome
Scottish Church Attitudes to Sex, Marriage and the Family 1850-1914
http://www.grian.demon.co.uk/ecclias.html
The fourth in the list.
Has an interesting chapter on irregular marriages.
I had never heard of the book and wondered if any members on here had.
I managed to find a bookseller in Edinburgh who has a reading copy for £7, which I’ll collect next week.
Davie

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Post by DavidWW » Sat Jan 06, 2007 2:24 pm

See also the various books by Leah Leneman (and co-authors) ...........

David

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Re: Sex lies and statisticts

Post by DavidWW » Sat Jan 06, 2007 2:30 pm

Davie wrote:Ah knew that topic wid get yer attention.

I have been tell’t that the tome
Scottish Church Attitudes to Sex, Marriage and the Family 1850-1914
http://www.grian.demon.co.uk/ecclias.html
The fourth in the list.
Has an interesting chapter on irregular marriages.
I had never heard of the book and wondered if any members on here had.
I managed to find a bookseller in Edinburgh who has a reading copy for £7, which I’ll collect next week.
Davie
Just bought a copy on the abebooks UK site for £9.75 incl. P&P ......... :wink:

Thanks for the steer.

David

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Post by Davie » Sat Jan 06, 2007 4:19 pm

A guid price David.
I know of the suffragette wan by leneman but have not read it.
I may even have a copy.
Another supposedly good read is Rosalind Mitchison's "The Old Poor Law in Scotland"

http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0748613 ... eader-link

I have nor read it either, but have a nice Coia caricature of her Mother-in-Law up oan ma wall in the flat.

One I would highly recommend though is The Social Life in Scotland.

http://www.electricscotland.com/history ... /18ndx.htm

You can also pick up the book for about a fiver on ABE.

Davie

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Post by JimM » Sat Jan 06, 2007 7:37 pm

Davie wrote: One I would highly recommend though is The Social Life in Scotland.


Davie
Good find Davie
Been reading this online .....some harrowing accounts of the famine in the early 1700's

Jim
researching
McIntyre, Menzies, Cowley, Pearson, Copland, McCammond, Forbes, Edgar etc. in Scotland
Skinner in Northumberland

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Post by SarahND » Sat Jan 06, 2007 9:56 pm

I just finished reading Alienated Affections: The Scottish Experience of Divorce and Separation, 1684-1830 by Leah Leneman. It gave me a very good idea of what the reasons were for divorce and separation at that time and what had to be proved in order to obtain them. If any of you have ancestors who were divorced (mostly for adultery) or legally separated (mostly for violence) in those early days, I can recommend the book highly. Unfortunately, the index only lists the names of the couples-- not all the witnesses, etc. I am nearly done working through the book adding the names to the index so it will be more complete. I think we would all like to know if one of our ancestors testified in someone else's divorce suit, right? Every bit of information about their lives helps!
Regards,
Sarah

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Post by LesleyB » Sat Jan 06, 2007 10:48 pm

Hi all
I have several Leneman & Mitchison books, all good reads:

Sin in the City: Sexuality and Social Control in Urban Scotland, 1660-1780
Girls in Trouble: Sexuality and Social Control in Rural Scotland, 1660-1780

- both full of examples from OPRs concerning premarital goings-on and Kirk Sessions which make fascinating reading! (Lots of names mentioned :oops: )

Also, having strugged and become horribly bogged down to a halt with the heavy going nature of some histories of Scotland, including several by Prebble, I really enjoyed Rosalind Mitchison's "A History of Scotland "

I dunno, some folk seem to get on fine with John Prebble...I don't!

Best wishes
Lesley

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Post by Davie » Sun Jan 07, 2007 9:52 pm

Hi All
Guid shout furr geyin yer different views oan books we huv read.
Oanywan waant tae start?
Ah huv done Buchan's Cromwell and Taylor's Claverhouse tae start us aff.
A review wid be guid tae get us gawn
Davie

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SEX LIES AND STATISTICS

Post by wini » Mon Jan 08, 2007 8:01 am

How about TS compiling a recommended book list for us punters from the antipodes who have to order through amazon
.
ah huv (not good at this lingo it should only be spoken not writen down)
bought a few but then I forget whit the others ur.

SORRY DAVIE they didn't let you pass English if you wrote in the lingua franca at Whitehill

wini
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Post by Davie » Mon Jan 08, 2007 2:25 pm

I dunno, some folk seem to get on fine with John Prebble...I don't!
Ah'm no mad keen on Prebble masel Lesley.
much prefer Antonia Fraser fur an easy read and usually well researched
And Wini, go to ABE much cheaper especially if you find a dealer in OZ
http://www.abebooks.com/

And ah went tae Onlslow, too thick tae get tae the brainy skool.
Davie