Lyssands, Dalry, Ayrshire.....

Sarah · Post by **Sarah** » Wed May 18, 2005 10:59 pm

Has anybody got access to a better map than me. I have an ancestor born at Lyssands. Is it a house, village or what. She was Janet Dickie born 15 July 1781 in Lyssands, Dalry. mother of James Spier of Goldencraig fame (see prev posting under Goldencraig)
Many thanks

Post by **AndrewP** » Thu May 19, 2005 1:35 am

Go to http://www.nls.uk/digitallibrary/map/ea ... _list.html (the National Library of Scotland's Digital Library) and select sheet 22 (Kilmarnock). Zoom in on Dalry parish - coloured pink in the north-west corner. As you zoom in closer, select the south-east corner of that parish and you will find Lissens, which I believe should be Lyssands that you are looking for. This map is from te 1890s.

Thomsons map of 1832 also shows it as Lissens.
http://www.nls.uk/digitallibrary/map/early/547.html

or Armstrongs map of 1775, showing it as Lussens.
http://www.nls.uk/digitallibrary/map/early/797.html

or on an earlier map by H. Mols, Lisseus
http://www.nls.uk/digitallibrary/map/ea ... cfm?id=239

On the current map at www.streetmap.co.uk and input "232500,647500" in the search box, and select the OS grid button, then search. Zoom in, using the zoom control under the map. You will find North Lissens and South Lissens.

Never take spelling for granted. To answer your question, Lissens is most likely a farm.

All the best,

Andrew Paterson

Sarah · Post by **Sarah** » Thu May 19, 2005 10:42 pm

Very many thanks Andrew.

DavidWW · Post by **DavidWW** » Fri May 20, 2005 8:44 am

These are the address entries from the 1881 census:

Lissens DALRY Ayrshire 587/
Lissens Cottage DALRY Ayrshire 587/
South Lissens DALRY Ayrshire 587/
South Lissens Cottage DALRY Ayrshire 587/

Davie

Sarah · Post by **Sarah** » Fri May 20, 2005 10:45 pm

Thanks Davie
Janet Dickie was born there or at one of them, in 1781. I wonder if they are still there?
Sarah

Post by **AndrewP** » Fri May 20, 2005 10:58 pm

According to the Royal Mail, yes - 1 Lissens Cottages is listed - no other Lissens or similar in the Postcode Directory.

All the best,

Andrew Paterson

Sarah · Post by **Sarah** » Fri May 20, 2005 11:41 pm

Questions no sooner asked than answered. This is a fantastic site. Many thanks to all. I hope I can be of use to somebody in return one day.
By the way if anybody is interested in the Spiers/Speirs from W Kilbride & Dalry it might be worth looking at the Speirheritage group on Yahoo.
Many thanks again
Sarah

DavidWW · Post by **DavidWW** » Sat May 21, 2005 8:38 am

My wife's a Dalry girl...........

She comments that Lissens Moss Farm still exists, - she recalls Jimmy MAIR the milkman from said farm delivering the milk.

Davie

PS And her mother confirms that the farm is 1 or 1 and a half miles NE of Dalry itself, so that area must be the location of the eponymous moss ....
dww

Sarah · Post by **Sarah** » Sat May 21, 2005 10:33 pm

This description taken from the raised bog inventory for Scottish Natural heritage might be of interest to those who know the area

Lissens Moss Grid ref NS338474
Local Auth N Ayrshire
Surveyed for Scottish Natural Heritage
Description
" A very small degraded site virtually lacking in any true mire expanse. A broad central drain separates the site in two destinct sections. The small remaining area of mire vegetation is very degraded and of little interest"
Thanks to all for your information.

Sheryl Kelso · Post by **Sheryl Kelso** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 2:06 pm

Sarah, the Speir and Dickie combination perked up my ears. I have a James Dickie Speir in my Speir list, born in 1841, died 1917. He married Elizabeth Jane Roy in 1877 in Dalry. James was the son of Allan and Mary Torrance Speir. We've never figured out the Dickie connection but thought it had to have been a relative. Allan and Mary lived and died in Crosshouse, Ayrshire, but James immigrated in 1881 and died in Missouri. Sheryl