Sinclair Miller/McAdie

[LesleyB]

Hi Gill

But am still a bit muddled as to finding her marriage on ScotsPeople

You need to go to Scotlands People ( www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk ) You will need to register to be able to search and it is a per pay view site. Searching is free, but to see the original marriage entry you will need to buy some credits, minimum amount being £6's worth. If used wisely & carefully you can see the results of 5 searches and five images for that amount, so take yuur time!

Viewing the original marriage entry should give you some new information and confirm some of the things you already know.

Sinclair was about 26 when she married,and was probably working around Edinburgh district......would this mean that she did'nt need to have the parents' name on her marriage certificate?

Makes no difference how far from home she was living, she would still be asked for the names of her parents.

Can someone please tell me what an 'RCE stamp'is on a birth certificate?

If a change needed to be made to a birth (or marriage or death) the entry was made in the Register of Corrected Entries.

Best wishes
Lesley

[gjones]

Hi Lesley,

Thanks for that Lesley,sorry to be one of the 'dum-dums'!
Your patience is welcomed.

Regards,

Gill

[Russell]

Hi Gill

We don't have 'Dum-Dums' on here

We all have to start somewhere and learning how is what TalkingScot is all about. We all started with little idea how to get the best out of various convoluted systems and learned, little by little, all the tricks and techniques to find our long lost ancestors.
There is lots of useful advice and information on the site here but until you actually try, some of it doesn't make sense.
The Aaaah factor is when a certificate pops up and it all becomes clear 'how' to do it.

No question is daft

Sometimes several pairs of eyes or combined brain power can solve the most outrageous puzzles, so fire away with any questions and expect a sensible answer.

Russell
No longer a beginner

[SarahND]

Hi again Gill
I'm reasonably sure that the Sinclair Miller who married James McAdie is not the one who was born in Wick. Recall that in the 1871 and 1881 censuses she reports her birthplace as Halkirk, Caithness. Here she is in 1861, before her marriage, at a time when the other Sinclair Miller was still at home with her parents:

1861
Harpsdale, Halkirk, Caithness
William Bain Senr., 60, Head, born Halkirk, Caithness, Farmer of 122 Acres (employing 2 Men 2 Women And 1 Boy)
Margaret Bain, 52, Wife, born Halkirk, Caithness
John M Bain, 21, Son, born Halkirk, Caithness, Scholar in Dool
Benjamin Bain, 17, Son, born Halkirk, Caithness, Scholar
Sinclair Miller, 22, Servant, born Halkirk, Caithness, Domestic Servant
Christina Bain, 16, Servant, born Halkirk, Caithness, Domestic Servant
Donald Sinclair, 12, Servant, born Halkirk, Caithness, Herd of Cattle

Now to try to find out what happened to your Sinclair Miller!
All the best,
Sarah

[SarahND]

Here's an attempt to track her down:

By fiddling with the free search on Scotland's People, I see that a woman named Sinclair Miller married in St Andrew, Edinburgh in 1877. Odd that she, too would marry in Edinburgh just like the other Sinclair Miller who married there in 1868

On the other hand, there is also a female Sinclair Miller, born 1842, who died in Wick in 1878... I'm afraid this may well be Kenneth's twin So that is why Sinclair's daughter Helen is living with her grandfather and aunt in 1881...

I haven't actually looked at the certificates, so I may be wrong, but I'm trying to narrow things down so you can decide which ones to spend your money on. If you have trouble figuring out the system on Scotland's People, don't hesitate to ask on the board. We'll all be glad to help!

All the best,
Sarah

[SarahND]

Hi Gill,

Her birth info. came up when I was looking at the line of the family that re-located to Liverpool,that's where her twin Kenneth ended up with his family.

Was Kenneth a stonemason? Just wondering if it was he I found in West Derby, Lancashire in 1881. Since you said he ended up in Liverpool, it seems likely. This Kenneth died in 1891, though, age 49 also in West Derby, just a few months before the 1901 census

Hope yours lived a bit longer...
Sarah

[fmackay]

Hi Gill
I have this family in my tree - albeit distant!
A brother, John, of Sinclair and Kenneth married Elizabeth Lyall, daughter of John Lyall and Catherine Flett.

I don't have much information on Sinclair and Kenneth.
I have the following children for parents Kenneth Miller and Helen Bruce
Issac born c1825, Christina c1831, Msargaret c1832, John c1833, Janet c1834, Helen c1835, Alex c1838, Kenneth c1841, Sinclair c1841. All ages based around 1841 census living at Thrumster.

I have a death certificate for a Sinclair Miller who died aged 36 on 15/6 1878, possible suicide, residence at time of death was Thrumster. There are no parents given.

PM if you need any further info

Fiona

[SarahND]

Hi Fiona,
That's great news for Gill, if you already have info on some of the family!

I have a death certificate for a Sinclair Miller who died aged 36 on 15/6 1878, possible suicide, residence at time of death was Thrumster. There are no parents given.

Oh dear... that must be the one I found. How sad I suppose it's impossible to be sure it's the right Sinclair if the parents' names aren't given, but the location makes it nearly certain. Wonder what the story was behind it.
Regards,
Sarah

[fmackay]

Catherine Miller, illegitamite daughter of Sinclair Miller died 6th July 1879, casue of death scarlet fever, mother listed as Sinclair Miller, deceased. Informant at Catherine's death was grandfather Kenneth Miller.

There is an RCE entry for Catherine's birth which names Alexander Manson, Labourer, of Thrumster as her father but he is not liste don her death certificate.

[SarahND]

Hi again,
Catherine's birth is in the IGI and she appears to have had a (male) twin: Sinclair Miller. Was he on the birth certificate you have too? Just wondering if he lived. I don't see him in the 1881 census.

Catherine Miller
Birth: 13 Jan 1872 Wick, Caithness
Mother: Sinclair Miller

Sinclair Miller (Male)
Birth: 13 Jan 1872 Wick, Caithness
Mother: Sinclair Miller

Regards,
Sarah

P.S. Do you know what happened to her other illegitimate child, Helen Sinclair?