JACK/TEAM/LAIRD/GARDNER and more!

Post by **AndrewP** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 6:18 pm

Sandy_Jack wrote:I have uploaded the OPR marriage of John Jack and Janet White (pending approval from administrators) to the Gallery, Help with Deciphering pages. Listed as John Jack Janet White OPR Marriage.

http://talkingscot.com/gallery/displayi ... ?pos=-1453

All the best,

AmdrewP

Post by **SarahND** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:03 am

Hmmm, not the easiest page, is it?

Five lines up there is a Farquhar White that looks clearly like White. I would agree that Janet's name looks more like White than it looks like Fife. I think it was a mistake by the registrar.
The tricky thing is that both couples started having children at about the same time. If the marriage was Alexander and Janet, then the first child was born two months later... But Helen, daughter of John and Janet was born about the same time

so no way of knowing if the mistake was in putting John, rather than Alex, or in the wrong surname for Janet

What do you think?
Sarah

Currie · Post by **Currie** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 4:49 am

Hello Sandy,

Just between you and me I think that image is an abomination. If I were you I would send in a contact form to ScotlandsPeople and ask for a better scan. Someone, it seems, hasn’t been paying attention when the scan was done.

In this sort of a situation, where the image is such a poor copy of the original, I would tend to give a lot of weight, as far as readability is concerned, to a Latter Day Saints transcription where there is one. The people at LDS would have been transcribing from, at the very minimum, a photographic copy on microfilm.

I was under the impression that OPR images were being delivered as Greyscale JPEG’s. Mine have been. Such a format doesn’t cause all the fragmentation and loss of fine detail that so often shows on the Statutory BMD’s images.

Is anyone else getting 1 bit TIF’s instead of JPEG’s for OPR’s or have I just been lucky?

All the best,
Alan

nelmit · Post by **nelmit** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 9:31 am

I see it as White - as Sarah said, the same as Farquhar's entry.

Sandy,

I had a browse through the poorhouse applications index yesterday (just in case) but couldn't see anything I'm afraid. There were a few Jacks from Fossoway but none of them yours.

Kind regards,
Annette

Post by **SarahND** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 9:52 am

Currie wrote:Is anyone else getting 1 bit TIF’s instead of JPEG’s for OPR’s or have I just been lucky?

Hi Alan,
In a quick glance, it looks like all the OPRs I have downloaded are JPEG. The SRI records are TIF.
Regards,
Sarah

Post by **AndrewP** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 10:08 am

Currie wrote:I was under the impression that OPR images were being delivered as Greyscale JPEG’s. Mine have been. Such a format doesn’t cause all the fragmentation and loss of fine detail that so often shows on the Statutory BMD’s images.

Is anyone else getting 1 bit TIF’s instead of JPEG’s for OPR’s or have I just been lucky?

I downloaded the image of that page from SP and got a legible jpg.

See http://talkingscot.com/gallery/displayi ... ?pos=-1454

All the best,

AndrewP

Post by **SarahND** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 10:24 am

Ah, that's beautiful Andrew. And quite clearly White

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Regards,
Sarah

Currie · Post by **Currie** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:10 am

Thanks Andrew,

That one's a beauty.

Alan

Sandy_Jack · Post by **Sandy_Jack** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 5:05 pm

Ooops. That would have been me. My first download was a tif image and I guessed that they all were. I have since downloaded the image as a jpg and it looks a whole lot better!

Learning is good.

Now, to go back in and re-download all of the OPRs I had saved as tifs!

A wealth of information lies within this forum..in many ways.

Thank-you
Sandy

Post by **SarahND** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 9:53 pm

Well, I went off on a long Fife tangent, trying to figure out which family Janet came from and looking at all of them in Dollar and in Fossoway through the years. Then I suddenly thought, why not look for her death cert to see who her parents were? So, I fiddled around with the free search on SP and there is only one Janet Jack born 1795 +/- 3 years in Glasgow City between 1871 and 1881. Turns out she died in 1875 in Gorbals and was born in 1794. I thought, why not put Fife or Fyfe in the "Other surnames" box? No results. So, on a lark, I put in "White"... bingo.

Aaah!

Sarah

And, on the IGI we find, of course

JANET WHITE
Birth: 01 MAR 1794
Christening: 16 MAR 1794 Dollar, Clackmannan
Father: Robert White
Mother Elisabeth Brown