Hi Steph,
The wording (married to) on Ann's 1868 DC should mean that Archibald was alive.
If it had said "widow of", then that should've meant he was dead.
Who was the informant on wee Ann's 1862 BC? Archibald? or mother Ann?
Jack
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MaryB
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Steph - also be on the lookout for Crosgrove Crosgrave Crossgrove and Crossgrave - am still looking for my Cosgroves in the 1871 census in Glasgow
Black Isle - Beaton Bethune Campbell
Inverness - Mackintosh
Aberdeen - Mitchell Leslie
Ireland - Cosgrove McGuire
Southshields - Patterson/Pattieson Campbell Sloan
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Inverness - Mackintosh
Aberdeen - Mitchell Leslie
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Mary Cosgrove
Hi Jack
The informant on the death certificate for Ann Stevens in 1868 was her brother James McAvoy - it does not state if he was present at time of death.
On the BC for Ann Stevens in 1862 was the mother Ann Stevens (nee McAvoy).
Steph
The informant on the death certificate for Ann Stevens in 1868 was her brother James McAvoy - it does not state if he was present at time of death.
On the BC for Ann Stevens in 1862 was the mother Ann Stevens (nee McAvoy).
Steph
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Jack
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Hi Steph,
If it was Archibald who'd signed Ann's 1862 BC then we'd know he was alive!
Shoud've asked you - did he sign Ellen's in 1860?
So now there is some doubt. Maybe he really was dead and Ann did have a child to someone else.
But didn't declare she was a widow to avoid the birth being recorded as illigitimate? Guess work here.
The 1881 census you have of Archibald Stevens says he's unmarried - but that, i know, means nothing.
Still a bit of a mystery then!
Jack
If it was Archibald who'd signed Ann's 1862 BC then we'd know he was alive!
Shoud've asked you - did he sign Ellen's in 1860?
So now there is some doubt. Maybe he really was dead and Ann did have a child to someone else.
But didn't declare she was a widow to avoid the birth being recorded as illigitimate? Guess work here.
The 1881 census you have of Archibald Stevens says he's unmarried - but that, i know, means nothing.
Still a bit of a mystery then!
Jack
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Mary Stevens
Hi Jack
no luck the informant on the BC for Ellen/Helen Stevens is also Ann Stevens (nee McAvoy).
I'll do some more research on the two boys born in England - maybe that will open up some info on old Archie!!!
Have a great night. Thanks again!!
Steph
no luck the informant on the BC for Ellen/Helen Stevens is also Ann Stevens (nee McAvoy).
I'll do some more research on the two boys born in England - maybe that will open up some info on old Archie!!!
Have a great night. Thanks again!!
Steph
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stephlangan
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MAry Stevens
Hi Mary
Here is a link I found today with some of the 1881 Glasgow Census for all variations of the name Cosgrove. I stumbled upon this by accident.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com ... lanark.htm
Hope it helps in some way.
Steph
Here is a link I found today with some of the 1881 Glasgow Census for all variations of the name Cosgrove. I stumbled upon this by accident.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com ... lanark.htm
Hope it helps in some way.
Steph
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Mary Stevens
Hi Sheila
My grandfather Michael (born 1904) came over from Castlebar, Co Mayo to Bridgeton Glasgow at about the age of 10 with his sister Nellie (Born 1901). So I am basically starting from that point.
I know that his parents were Martin Langan and Bridget Naugton and have been able to confirm their marriage in Castlebar (July 2 1887). Besides Nellie he had two sisters in Glasgow - Maggie who married Patrick McGrory and a sister Molly ( married an Earlie or Early) but I have not been able to trace her in Glasgow yet. His sister Nellie married James Skivington and I was very fortunate to find two of their children still alive and well and living in Glasgow and have put them back in touch wiith my dad and his sisters.
Any of this tie into your Langans?? ( fingers crossed!!!)
I have a bit more info but its too much to write down here but I would be more that willing to share it with you.
Steph
My grandfather Michael (born 1904) came over from Castlebar, Co Mayo to Bridgeton Glasgow at about the age of 10 with his sister Nellie (Born 1901). So I am basically starting from that point.
I know that his parents were Martin Langan and Bridget Naugton and have been able to confirm their marriage in Castlebar (July 2 1887). Besides Nellie he had two sisters in Glasgow - Maggie who married Patrick McGrory and a sister Molly ( married an Earlie or Early) but I have not been able to trace her in Glasgow yet. His sister Nellie married James Skivington and I was very fortunate to find two of their children still alive and well and living in Glasgow and have put them back in touch wiith my dad and his sisters.
Any of this tie into your Langans?? ( fingers crossed!!!)
I have a bit more info but its too much to write down here but I would be more that willing to share it with you.
Steph
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Thanks for that site Steph - I did find my GT Grandmother ( Mary) in the census, also the birth of one of her brothers (James), and her other brother in the census (John) - couldn't find James in the census, but did find a James some years back staying in HMS prison, still to prove that he belongs to me
Mary's father was killed, in an accident at his work - his brother Patrick registered his death, and there are too many Patrick's on that site, to prove which one it is
When Mary died, my aunt (she is 90) remembers two well dressed looking gentlemen, who were Mary's brother's attending her funeral
thanks again for the site - will check later, and take a list of all the Patrick's on the site - in those days family's tended to live close to each other, so should be able to match up addresses, and then set about looking to prove things
Mary's father was killed, in an accident at his work - his brother Patrick registered his death, and there are too many Patrick's on that site, to prove which one it is
When Mary died, my aunt (she is 90) remembers two well dressed looking gentlemen, who were Mary's brother's attending her funeral
thanks again for the site - will check later, and take a list of all the Patrick's on the site - in those days family's tended to live close to each other, so should be able to match up addresses, and then set about looking to prove things
Black Isle - Beaton Bethune Campbell
Inverness - Mackintosh
Aberdeen - Mitchell Leslie
Ireland - Cosgrove McGuire
Southshields - Patterson/Pattieson Campbell Sloan
Greenock - Boyle McPhail Blair McKechnie Clark
Inverness - Mackintosh
Aberdeen - Mitchell Leslie
Ireland - Cosgrove McGuire
Southshields - Patterson/Pattieson Campbell Sloan
Greenock - Boyle McPhail Blair McKechnie Clark
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Hi Steph
Thanks for your reply. Unfortunately, it doesn't look as though they are the same, unless they are distant cousins, my branch being in Scotland earlier.
My GGGrandmother Mary Langan (sometimes spelled Langhan) married a James Moran. On the death register 1874, her daughter, Letitia didn't remember the first names of her grandparents and it doesn't say where Mary was born.
My mother had told me that this branch of the family were Irish, but so far I haven't found the connection to Ireland for them.
Good luck searching
Sheila
Thanks for your reply. Unfortunately, it doesn't look as though they are the same, unless they are distant cousins, my branch being in Scotland earlier.
My GGGrandmother Mary Langan (sometimes spelled Langhan) married a James Moran. On the death register 1874, her daughter, Letitia didn't remember the first names of her grandparents and it doesn't say where Mary was born.
My mother had told me that this branch of the family were Irish, but so far I haven't found the connection to Ireland for them.
Good luck searching
Sheila
Sheila