Birth of Archibald Maclaurin in Perthshire??

perisama · Post by **perisama** » Sun Aug 09, 2009 7:58 pm

Brilliant!! I knew you clever lot could help. That is all wonderful. It is too much of a coincidence with all those name for it not to be him.
I have looked on there(Family search) before but no matches came up. Even just now when I tried with ludovic (and other spellings) nothing nothing nothing..... any ideas?

nelmit · Post by **nelmit** » Sun Aug 09, 2009 8:04 pm

perisama wrote:Brilliant!! I knew you clever lot could help. That is all wonderful. It is too much of a coincidence with all those name for it not to be him.
I have looked on there(Family search) before but no matches came up. Even just now when I tried with ludovic (and other spellings) nothing nothing nothing..... any ideas?

If you do a parent search at Family search - put Alexander Mclaren in the father box and Janet McLaren in the mother - you'll get the result that Lesley found.

perisama · Post by **perisama** » Sun Aug 09, 2009 8:18 pm

Aha!!! I never knew that!!! Wow I can go and find all the siblings of all my other branches now!!! I will never ever be bored again (not that I was).
There was a family story that our maclaurins were descendants from Rev. John Maclaurin and his brother Colin the mathematician but I never found a line from them to us. Perhaps I might delve a bit more.

LesleyB · Post by **LesleyB** » Sun Aug 09, 2009 8:27 pm

Hi perisama

He is listed as LODVICK MCLAREN on IGI, which may be a mistranscription or how it is indeed spelt in the OPR - you'd need to see the original, downloadable on SP, to make a judgement on that, but best as Annette suggests to do a parent seach, 'cos that way you will get the same bunch of children as I did.

From what Annette has found too, looks like there is quite a lot of new info there which is always exciting. The OPRs may give you a little more - sometimes they mention place of abode, sometimes occupation of the father.

And although I know it will cost a bit if you do it through SP, I would suggest looking at every christening, not just the one. Sometimes the bit of detail that really illuminates something, or proves a connection is there in one of the births but not the others. As an example, I spent an afternoon once with a microfilm, chasing up a batch of births in South Leith, looking for proof that I had found the correct parents, and I knew if my hunch was correct that the father had to be described as a "merchant in Leith" - on every birth there was no mention of this, the father was given time and time again as a "Weaver in South Leith" (at least the South Leith records tend to give some detail, many OPRs do not...) It was not until I read the birth of the very last child that the magical words were there ..."Merchant in Leith"...and I can still remember the elation, just about whooping out loud, and walking off down the street to catch my train with a very daft grin on my face - I now had the names, for definate, with proof, of my 5th gr grandparents!

Best wishes
Lesley

perisama · Post by **perisama** » Sun Aug 09, 2009 8:46 pm

You are right Lesley, I should do that. I keep getting so side tracked and not concentrating on one thing. I am delving into three different branches at the same time because they are linked by sibling marriage. Not their own brother and sister you understand but two brothersfrom one family marrying 2 sisters from another. All very confusing.

LesleyB · Post by **LesleyB** » Sun Aug 09, 2009 8:59 pm

A possibly cheaper and maybe a better option, might be to order up the microfilms for the two parishes; Comrie & Balquhidder from your local LDS centre. It usually costs around £2.70 per film and you have access to them for about 3 weeks. Sometimes seeing the births "in context" with the other surnames, and the other info that might be given, gives a really good feel for the area. You begin to feel you know the people better, sometimes tripping over other relations accidentally and being able to connect up families, and have a better understanding of the place and times. It is my preferred way if I have several births in the one parish.

I'm not sure what either of the OPRs mentioned are like - sometimes they can be very colourful giving lots of detail and wee stories and asides, others can be very brief and just stick to the bare minimum of info. Maybe someone who knows either of these OPRs at around the dates you are interested in, will be able to comment.

Also check out the Statistical Accounts for each parish as that gives a great feel for the area
http://edina.ac.uk/stat-acc-scot/
- click on Browse Scanned Pages
That should keep you busy for a bit!

Best wishes
Lesley

LesleyB · Post by **LesleyB** » Sun Aug 09, 2009 9:09 pm

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/t ... 1128038502

I was doing a bit of research on my McKeands and came accross two MI's in the Penninghame Old Kirkyard booklet. They are nos. 77 and 78 regarding the McLaurin (McLawren / McLaren) family.
#77
Flat table Erected to the Memory of David McLaurin late Brewer in Newton Stewart who died 18th December 1818 aged 78 years. Also of James McLaurin, Brewer in Newton Stewart who died 16th May 1833 aged 50 years and also Daniel McLaurin his youngest son who died at Harcourt, Australia on the 3rd Feb 1860 aged 38years. Also Janet McKeand wife of the said James McLaurin who died at Edinburgh March 22nd 1870 aged 88 years Also James McLaurin of the British Linen Co. Bank, Edinburgh, eldest son of the above James McLaurin who died there on 5th May 1877 aged 60 years Dougald McLaurin, Parliamentary Solicitor, London, his second son who died at Fernhill, Portpatrick 17th Jan 1879 aged 61years and is interred in Minnigaff Churchyard. Also Samuel McLaurin his third son who died at Newton Stewart 6th May 1870 aged 58years and is interred there.

#78
Flat table Erected by Daniel McLaurin, agent of the British Linen Co. Bank at Newton Stewart in sacred memorial of his love and affection for his eldest son Alexander a child of the most promising talent and prepossessing appearance who died of the croup after a few days illness on 25th March 1830 aged 3years and eleven months of his son David who died 11th April 1832 aged 3months and of the above Daniel who died 26 february 1834 aged 45 years and also of his spouse Elisabeth Dunsmore who died on 6th March 1853 aged 45 years and also Daniel McLaurin youngest son who died at Harcourt Australia the 3rd February 1860 aged 38years.

perisama · Post by **perisama** » Sun Aug 16, 2009 11:17 pm

I was doing a bit of research on my McKeands and came accross two MI's in the Penninghame Old Kirkyard booklet. They are nos. 77 and 78 regarding the McLaurin (McLawren / McLaren) family.
#77
Flat table Erected to the Memory of David McLaurin late Brewer in Newton Stewart who died 18th December 1818 aged 78 years. Also of James McLaurin, Brewer in Newton Stewart who died 16th May 1833 aged 50 years and also Daniel McLaurin his youngest son who died at Harcourt, Australia on the 3rd Feb 1860 aged 38years. Also Janet McKeand wife of the said James McLaurin who died at Edinburgh March 22nd 1870 aged 88 years Also James McLaurin of the British Linen Co. Bank, Edinburgh, eldest son of the above James McLaurin who died there on 5th May 1877 aged 60 years Dougald McLaurin, Parliamentary Solicitor, London, his second son who died at Fernhill, Portpatrick 17th Jan 1879 aged 61years and is interred in Minnigaff Churchyard. Also Samuel McLaurin his third son who died at Newton Stewart 6th May 1870 aged 58years and is interred there.

I know there must be a connection somewhere but I cannot link my family with any of the people in #77. Even though I have Daniel in my lot, I don't believe he should have been in there. I think it is an error from whoever originally wrote the booklet.
I will try agin and again to see what I have compared to the M.I.'s but I keep going round in circles,..

LesleyB · Post by **LesleyB** » Mon Aug 17, 2009 12:09 am

Hi perisama

The fact that the two stones are side by side suggests there is a family connection. That is half the fun of family research - finding out how all the pieces fit. There are plenty dates given on that MI which you can go and check up on SP and also on IGI to help you find out where this branch fit in, if you do not already know who they are. I usually find it helpful to draw them up as a tree to get the relationships and dates clear in your head.

Maybe if you think there is an error, the first thing to do would be to see the booklet mentioned; "MI's in the Penninghame Old Kirkyard" -
which I think might be this one:
Wigtownshire MI - Clachan of Penninghame Old Kirkyard
Price: £2.00
http://www.scotsgenealogy.com/acatalog/ ... re_MI.html

- perhaps the error lies with the person who made the post, not the booklet! If the booklet states what is written above, then next stage would be to see the stones for yourself.

Best wishes
Lesley

perisama · Post by **perisama** » Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:35 am

Okey Dokey.... Anyone live near the graveyard??