George Duncan Guthrie

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Re: George Duncan Guthrie

Post by Currie » Sat Nov 28, 2009 12:25 pm

Hello Sarah & Jim,

It looks as though Isabella may have come to Australia with her father in 1855 on the Glenroy but didn’t stay for long.
Index to Unassisted Inward Passenger Lists to Victoria 1852-1923
http://proarchives.imagineering.com.au/ ... earchid=23
Family Name, First Name, Age, Month, Year, Ship, Port, Fiche , Page
GUTHRIE, ADAM, 63, OCT, 1855, GLENROY, B , 099, 001
GUTHRIE, ISABELLA, 21, OCT, 1855, GLENROY, B, 099, 001

An Adam Guthrie, died 1874, and George Duncan Guthrie, died 1910, are both in grave 5096 at Bendigo Cemetery. http://www.bencemtrust.com.au/search.as ... al=&sYear=

Have a play with the search at https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/i ... eNoParam=1
Unless I’ve fumbled it the father of the 1874 death appears to have been John and you may get more for A99c.

Alan

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Re: George Duncan Guthrie

Post by SarahND » Sat Nov 28, 2009 1:12 pm

Hi Alan,
What did you do, just keep plugging in plausible male names until one came up with a result?!

On Scotland's People there is an Adam Guthrie born (and/or baptized) in Coylton, Ayr in 1791, father John. There is one other around that time, but not in Ayrshire. Coylton is right next to Sundrum, which is his birthplace according to the 1851 census. :D

Regards,
Sarah

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Re: George Duncan Guthrie

Post by Currie » Sun Nov 29, 2009 12:46 am

Just lucky Sarah,

I had a very quick look at the IGI and all that turned up was one born a few years too early, in Midlothian I think, with a father John. John was the first name I tried and amazingly it worked.

All the best,
Alan

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Re: George Duncan Guthrie

Post by Currie » Sun Nov 29, 2009 1:12 pm

George Duncan Guthrie’s Will and Probate papers can be seen here. Everything was left to wife, Cecilia. http://proarchives.imagineering.com.au/ ... earchid=54

Alan

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Re: George Duncan Guthrie

Post by SarahND » Sun Nov 29, 2009 1:35 pm

Speaking of such things, on Scotland's People there are several possible wills for a John Guthrie in Ayr at a plausible time, if we only knew his occupation and could narrow it down. I'm assuming Jim is trying to find a connection between his Ayr Guthries and Adam's family.

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Sarah

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Re: George Duncan Guthrie

Post by Waverley » Sun Nov 29, 2009 7:45 pm

Hi Sarah & Alan
I am working on Adam Guthrie and trying to tie up the two Guthrie,s trees Ayrshire is the most plausabile line but I have been told of a John Guthrie & Maysie Dickison parents of Adam Guthrie - North Leith married to Elizabeth Duncan.

This all started by my cousin Phyliss Guthrie who stays in Leeton Australia and she got the name when she visited Bendigo Pottery last weekend.

Once again great to have all your input and support and I hope to reach a good ending to this research
regards Jim

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Re: George Duncan Guthrie

Post by Waverley » Sun Nov 29, 2009 9:04 pm

Hi Sarah & John
I certianly am checking on Adam Guthrie and I believe that he was from Sundrum Ayrshire and not North Leith and that there is a tie-up between my ancestors and theirs. This enquiry all started when my Cousin Phyliss Guthrie who stays in Leeton Australia went to Bendigo Pottery and read about George

Sarah mentioned earlier that Adam was a coal merchant in the 1851 census. Once again thanks for your input and time taken in your research and the common friendship we all share in searching for that link in the hope of adding another branch to a tree.

regards Jim

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Re: George Duncan Guthrie

Post by SarahND » Sun Nov 29, 2009 9:15 pm

Hi Jim,
Do keep us posted! Do you have your own family history back to Ayr so you can tell at what point your line meets up? Would your ancestor be a sibling of Adam or is the link further back? Just curious now I've been looking into this family! :D

Best of luck,
Sarah

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Re: George Duncan Guthrie

Post by Waverley » Mon Nov 30, 2009 2:55 am

Hi Sarah
PATERNAL GUTHRIES AYRSHIRE (the name has also been spelt GUTHERIE I believe French way)
GGM Margaret Guthrie b 21/3/1851@ Stevenston d 29/11/1911 Saltcoats m 26/11/1874 to GGFJames Wilson b 12/1/1848
d 13/2/1922
2GGF Peter Gutherie b 17/12/1819 c 26/12/1819 @ Stevenston m 5/6/1841 @ Stevenston to Marion Scott b 24/6/1820
c 25/6/1820 @ Stevenston d 15/6/1902 @ Ardrossan
CHILDREN
William b 1841 @ Stevenston d 01/03/1844 @ Stevenston
Janet b 21/12/1844 @ Stevenston
Helen b 07/03/1848 @ Stevenston
Margaret Guthrie b 21/03/1851 @ Stevenston d 29/11/1911 @ Saltcoats
Elizabeth b 09/12/1853 @ Stevenston d 04/07/1906 @ Ardrossan
Mary b 07/02/1856 @ Stevenston d Infancy
Marion b 27/02/1858 @ Stevenston d 30/03/1863 @ Stevenston
Agnes b 01/07/1860 @ Stevenston d Infancy
Archibald Scott b 08/03/1862 @ Stevenston d 06/12/1869
Thomas Scott b 06/02/1867 @ Stevenston d 10/01/1938 @ Ardrossan
3GGF William Gutherie b abt 1789 Married 15/04/1809 @ Stevenston toHelen McFadyen
CHILDREN
Agnes b 07/02/1810 @ Stevenston c 17/02/1810 @ Stevenston
Janet b 00/00/1814
John b 15/08/1815 @ Stevenston c 20/08/1815 @ Stevenston
Peter b 17/12/1819 @ Stevenston c 26/12/1819 @ Stevenston

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Re: George Duncan Guthrie

Post by Waverley » Mon Nov 30, 2009 4:57 am

Additions to Ayrshire Gutherie
Peter Gutherie's son Peter Scott Gutherie b 06/02/1867 Married Agnes McCall who died at childbirth he later married Isabella Glen Bell 15/09/1909
CHILDREN
Isabella Glen Bell (aka Ella) b 19xx
Thomas Scott Guthrie B 19xx
Marion ( May) Guthrie b 19xx
Thomas Scott Guthrie b 19xx m Catherine McDonald Scott Guthrie 19xx
CHILD Phyliss Guthrie b 19xx @ Ardrossan

Edit: Sorry, had to xx out some of your dates as they're past the posting cut-off date

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