Searching for Neilson's in Lanark...

Andy · Post by **Andy** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 2:40 pm

Here's one of Thomas Neilson's brothers in 1881:

Dwelling: Howtown
Census Place: Crawford, Lanark, Scotland
Source: FHL Film 0203624 GRO Ref Volume 635-2 EnumDist 1 Page 20
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Robert NEILSON M 47 M Lamington, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Head
Occ: Leadminer
Catherine NEILSON M 37 F Leadhills, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Wife
Thomas NEILSON U 17 M Leadhills, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Son
Occ: Lead Labourer
David NEILSON 13 M Leadhills, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Son
Peter NEILSON 6 M Leadhills, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
Mary NEILSON 3 F Leadhills, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Daur

The wife was Catherine Blackwood

Andy · Post by **Andy** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 2:45 pm

The most likely candidate for Thomas Neilson in 1841:

Piece: SCT1841/641 Place: Douglas-Lanarkshire Enumeration District: 5
Civil Parish: Douglas Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Douglas
Folio: 5 Page: 5
Address: Uddington

Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
MARSHALL John M 20 Labourer Lanarkshire
MARSHALL Robert M 15 Lanarkshire
NELSON Thomas M 17 Lanarkshire

Andy · Post by **Andy** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 4:03 pm

Elizabeth Hoatson VERY probably had a brother, James, who Married Jean Colthart.

They had at least 5 children:

1. BETTY HOATSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 30 OCT 1863 Crawfordjohn, Lanark, Scotland
2. MARY HOATSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 22 NOV 1860 Crawfordjohn, Lanark, Scotland
3. ANDREW HOATSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 19 FEB 1855 Crawfordjohn, Lanark, Scotland
4. ROBERT HOATSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 12 FEB 1858 Crawfordjohn, Lanark, Scotland
5. JEAN THOMSON HOATSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 23 JAN 1853 Crawfordjohn, Lanark, Scotland

Here's wife, Jane in 1881:

Dwelling: Crossknowe
Census Place: Crawfordjohn, Lanark, Scotland
Source: FHL Film 0203624 GRO Ref Volume 636 EnumDist 4 Page 8
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Jane HOATSON M 61 F Crawfordjohn, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Wife (Head)
Occ: Drainers Wife
Jane HOATSON U 28 F Crawfordjohn, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Daughter
Occ: General Servant
Betty HOATSON U 17 F Crawfordjohn, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Daughter Handicap: Imbecile
Robert HOATSON 8 M Crawfordjohn, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Grandson
Occ: Scholar
James H. WATSON 7 M Crawfordjohn, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Grandson
Occ: Scholar
Dwelling: Crossknowe
Census Place: Crawfordjohn, Lanark, Scotland
Source: FHL Film 0203624 GRO Ref Volume 636 EnumDist 4 Page 8
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Jane HOATSON M 61 F Crawfordjohn, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Wife (Head)
Occ: Drainers Wife
Jane HOATSON U 28 F Crawfordjohn, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Daughter
Occ: General Servant
Betty HOATSON U 17 F Crawfordjohn, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Daughter Handicap: Imbecile
Robert HOATSON 8 M Crawfordjohn, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Grandson
Occ: Scholar
James H. WATSON 7 M Crawfordjohn, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Grandson
Occ: Scholar

Husband, James:

Dwelling: Longhouse
Census Place: Douglas, Lanark, Scotland
Source: FHL Film 0203628 GRO Ref Volume 641 EnumDist 1 Page 8
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
James PENMAN M 36 M Dunsyre, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Head
Occ: Shepherd
Mary PENMAN M 35 F Newbigging, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Wife
Occ: Shepherd Wife
Elizabeth PENMAN U 14 F Dunsyre, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Daur
Occ: Daughter At Home
Charles PENMAN 11 M Carnwath, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
Agnes PENMAN 6 F Biggar, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Daur
Occ: Scholar
John PENMAN 4 M Culter, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Son
Janet PENMAN 1 F Douglas, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Daur
James HOWATSON M 60 M Crawfordjohn, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Lodger
Occ: Drainer

Jane Thomson Hoatson was still alive in 1881 too:

Dwelling: Townhead No 3
Census Place: Crawfordjohn, Lanark, Scotland
Source: FHL Film 0203624 GRO Ref Volume 636 EnumDist 4 Page 9
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Jane THOMSON OR HOATSON W 84 F Closeburn, Dumfries, Scotland
Rel: Head
Occ: Pauper
Jane HOATSON U 52 F Crawfordjohn, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Daughter
Occ: Formerly Farm Servant

Andy · Post by **Andy** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 4:07 pm

Jane was born about 1797 in Dumfries:

JEAN THOMSON
Female

Event(s):
Birth:
16 APR 1797 Closeburn, Dumfries, Scotland
Christening:
Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: ROBERT THOMSON Family
Mother: MARY MCNEIGHT (probably McKnight)

Others in the family:

3. ELIZABETH THOMSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 28 AUG 1799 Closeburn, Dumfries, Scotland
4. MARY THOMSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 28 NOV 1794 Closeburn, Dumfries, Scotland
5. JEAN THOMSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 16 APR 1797 Closeburn, Dumfries, Scotland
6. MARGARET THOMSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 20 JUL 1802 Closeburn, Dumfries, Scotland
7. SUSANA THOMSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 22 FEB 1793 Closeburn, Dumfries, Scotland
8. JANET THOMSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 22 FEB 1793 Closeburn, Dumfries, Scotland

Andy · Post by **Andy** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 4:14 pm

Sorry I got carried away again!!!

Legs11 · Post by **Legs11** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 5:29 pm

All I can say is WOW and a huge THANK YOU

I have no idea who all those people are of where they fit in, I will have to print out all the information and piece it all together as I am completely confused!!

Thanking everyone so much - I'm sure I'll be back shortly for some help in un-confusing myself!!

Thanks again
Love a very very happy
Legs
xxxx

Legs11 · Post by **Legs11** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 5:40 pm

Andy,

A quick question....re the 1841 census (1st thing you posted today) How do we know for sure that Thomas is their son....I assume that because he was born in 1823 that he had left home by 1841 hence not being with the parents...?

Also why in one census is the mother (Jane/Jean/Jeannie) a Thompson and her daughters are Hoatsons?

And can we be sure that Jean/Jane/Jeannie is the same perosn that came from Dumfries. I have no idea where Dumfires is in relation to Lanark (going to find a map in a second!)

Still lost in it all but incredibly grateful!
Legs
xxxx

Jack · Post by **Jack** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 10:49 pm

Hi Legs,
And another quick question! - do you have Thomas NEILSON's DC?, ie the Thomas who married Elizabeth HOATSON.
What were the details?
Jack

Legs11 · Post by **Legs11** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 10:55 pm

Hi Jack

I'm afraid all I have is the info on here, I've only just moved my research north of the boarder so all this is very new (and exciting). I've not yet worked out Scotland's People so I have no certificates or anything!!

Love
Legs
xxxx

Andy · Post by **Andy** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 11:20 pm

All that has been posted is 100% positive. (I wouldn't have bothered otherwise).

Hoatson/Howatson engaged my interest so, like I said, I got carried away.

Unless a few Mothers were playing "away from home" the information given is 100% correct.

In Scotland married females retain (or can) their Maiden Name hence you can search for deaths using both names (England doesn't have this).

Like I said I got carried away but can guarantee that all information is 100% correct.

Regarding Thomas, the son, just check out the death cert in 1892.

Scottish records are very good!