Yet another brick wall to be demolished.....

[Clydesdale]

Hello again Annette

Many thanks for the 1841 info - that is great - all helps to put the picture together doesn't it?

I have spent over a week on SP and many pounds looking for these records, but tomorrow I am going to try again. Maybe I was not doing the search properly? In the end it might be just as cheap for me to fly up to Edinburgh and look it all up

I have many more relatives to find on my father's side, so the 1881 CD will be very handy for that too.

Cheers and thanks
Clydesdale

[joette]

Hi Clydedale just thought I would let everybody else know that we may have a connection through marriage.Not on the Yuills but the other side the Berrys.
Love reading other peoples journeys too.Nice to know you are getting somewhere! Will be checking out that connection in a couple of weeks!

[DavidWW]

....snipped ........Hope this isn't advertising? ....snipped

It is , but perfectly acceptable such practice as the LDS CDs are sold on a non-profit basis, as, for that matter, are CDs and the like sold by most of the Scottish FHSs ...............

In other words, TS have no objection to mention of LDS, FHS and any other material that is sold on a non-profit/costs-covering basis, but would frown on the mention of CDs and similar produced by commercial companies.

David
TSAG

[isobelc]

Thomas Duncan Yule died on 19th September 1936 at 25 Main Street, Tobermory. He was 89 years old, a Fisherman, and was the widower of Mary Sutherland. Father Thomas Yule, Fisherman (Dec'd), Mother Margaret Yule m/s Duncan. Informant was John B Yule, nephew of Ina? Bui;dings, Tobermory.

Thomas Yule married Mary Sutherland in 1876 but there is no record of Reg District on the SP entry and no image available.

Alexander Yule died on 23rd December 1914 at 57 Main Street, Tobermory. He was 63 and also a Fisherman. Married to Jane Buchan. Father Thomas Yule, Fisherman (dec'd), Mother Margaret Yule m/s Duncan. Informant John Yule, son

Alexander Yule married Jane Buchan in 1876 in Peterhead. You indicated that you had checked this marriage cert. and it showed the father as Alexander.Perhaps this was a mistake. It would appear that all the families at Ronheads in 1881 are indeed yours.

Regards,

Isobel (Edinburgh)

[Clydesdale]

Yippppeeee Isobelc - you are a star! =D> I can't thank you enough for that - it has renewed my hope that I can get this family together. I have downloaded the certificate and the fact that a nephew was the informant on the death certificate brings another family into the line, which is just great. I am collecting all the information I can so I can work backwards to discover just who the original "Yule" was. There are quite a few family lines with the same names.

As for the marriage certificate - I have emailed the GROS to ask why there is no image to search, before I have to part with a bawbee from my family history budget. . It seems very strange that there is no District recorded - hopefully they will tell my why.

Many many thanks again -
Grateful thanks
Clydesdale

[Clydesdale]

Thank you so much David for the info on resources - it is good to know that we are not upsetting anyone - would hate to do that

And it is nice to hear from you Joette. I am working on the Berrys and will get them up on the site asap so you can check names and dates. Will need to reorganise it a bit though to make it easier to navigate - all takes time - but do let me know if you have any more information.

Cheers
Clydesdale

[AndrewP]

Thomas Yule married Mary Sutherland in 1876 but there is no record of Reg District on the SP entry and no image available.

Is there an index number (GROS data) given for this entry without a registration district? If so, what is it?

All the best,

Andrew Paterson

[Clydesdale]

Good evening Andrew,

Many thanks for your question.

The search on SP gave the following details -
1876 / Yule, Thomas / Sutherland, Mary - then two blanks - and GROS Data 232/X0 0002 / no image.

Are these details sufficient?

Cheers,
Clydesdale

[AndrewP]

The search on SP gave the following details -
1876 / Yule, Thomas / Sutherland, Mary - then two blanks - and GROS Data 232/X0 0002 / no image.

Are these details sufficient?

You gave the answer I was hoping for - a GROS code containing an "X".

I have seen a number of these when I have been in New Register House. These are ones where a second book has been started within a registration district in a year. So a second series of certificates starting at "1". This has presented indexing problems in New Register House, and now I see on ScotlandsPeople too.

On the NRH DIGROS system (GROS's inhouse version of ScotlandsPeople) these certificates with an X come up with a "no image available" message. In there, the certificate can be found on microfiche - if you know to look for series 2 in that set. A contact form to ScotlandsPeople may nudge them to issue you a copy of the certificate by post.

The 232 gives you Peterhead, or Boddam, Aberdeenshire as the registration district, and 0002 gives you that it is the second page in that book of certificates.

The explanation that I have heard for a second registration book being issued is that the book issued for the year was not sufficient for the predicted amount of births (or marriages or deaths) and another one had to be started. I have not heard any reason why the certificates could not be numbered in sequence following the end of the previous book.

All the best,

Andrew Paterson

[Clydesdale]

Hi Andrew,

Thank you for your information on this. Having read all that I too cannot see why the pages could not be numbered in sequence following on from the first book. So it looks as if I am lumbered with paying out £10 for a certificate (which I could do without). When I get an email back from SP I will let you know what they say. Maybe they have a sale on at the moment

Cheers
Clydesdale