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CathieL
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Post by CathieL » Fri May 19, 2006 2:25 am

Hi Jenny
I was a little puzzled by that, I have quite a number of certs. and that is the first time I have seen the X or Y. Most say the married name followed by maiden surname, MS. On some of the death certs, Margaret's daughter for example, it says mother's name
Margaret Stewart
Subsequently McAleer
M.S. Campbell
Thank you for the explanation, although this branch on my tree is driving me out of my tree I have had a lot of help from this forum and I learn something new every time I read all the letters
Cathie :)
Researching- Stewart. Connolly,McQuade, Coyle,Kelly, Farrell, McKenna, Ward. Kenny.

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Post by ninatoo » Fri May 19, 2006 7:25 am

Just to butt in here about the X and Y thingy....

Here is one of mine:

Elizabeth Deuchars Donaldson or Klippel or Orr. Which is her maiden name do you think? (I don't know yet; I just found her!)

Nina
Researching: Easton ( Renfrewshire, Dunbarton and Glasgow), Corr (Londonderry and Glasgow), Carson (Co. Down, Irvine, Ayrshire and Glasgow), Logan (Londonderry and Glasgow)

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Post by CathieL » Fri May 19, 2006 3:33 pm

Nina
I have one exactly like that
Helen or Ellen Coyle McQuade Connolly Kelly. I have driven myself (and this board) round the bend with this lady and no results yet. I hope yours is much easier to figure out. :roll:
Cathie
Researching- Stewart. Connolly,McQuade, Coyle,Kelly, Farrell, McKenna, Ward. Kenny.

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Post by Liz Turner » Fri May 19, 2006 8:29 pm

Further to the queries about names, I worked for some years in a solicitors office (not that long ago!!) and in all dispositions of property etc etc, women were always referred to by both their own names and their married name/names. It is as far as I know still the practice in Scotland - thank goodness - it's much easier to find them!!

Liz
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Post by DavidWW » Sat May 20, 2006 8:40 am

ninatoo wrote:Just to butt in here about the X and Y thingy....

Here is one of mine:

Elizabeth Deuchars Donaldson or Klippel or Orr. Which is her maiden name do you think? (I don't know yet; I just found her!)

Nina
In that format any of the three !, although more likely to be ORR, on the basis that someone was too lazy to write "DONALDSON formerly KLIPPEL MS ORR", but then she could have been a widow who had reverted to her maiden name.

David

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Post by ninatoo » Sat May 20, 2006 8:48 am

I found her and her maiden name was Elizabeth Deuchars Donaldson. Just goes to show that the rule does not always apply. I wish it did!

Nina
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Post by AnneM » Sat May 20, 2006 8:54 am

Hi

The correct format is Maiden name or married name, if married more than once maiden name or first married name or second married name. Someone like myself who has been married twice (and still is married to husband number 2) but uses her maiden name would be known as

Jeanie Smith or Brown or Jones, known as Smith

where Smith is her own name and she was married to a Mr Brown and then to a Mr Jones.

I would probably take exception to that in my own case as I have never used my second husband's surname but I would probably have a fight on my hands with for example a police officer taking a statement.

I guess the names often get the wrong way round but that is the correct way to do it and it can apply to any married woman.

Anne

PS the rule was applied correctly in the case you are talking about as Donaldson was given first.
Anne
Researching M(a)cKenzie, McCammond, McLachlan, Kerr, Assur, Renton, Redpath, Ferguson, Shedden, Also Oswald, Le/assels/Lascelles, Bonning just for starters