looking for cameron ancestors.....

Jack · Post by **Jack** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 9:12 pm

Hi Yvonne,
As Lesley says, usually very little detail on OPR marriages, but you never know till you look!

Am i missing something Lesley? The 2 cesuses were 1851 & 1861.
William CAMERON was there in 1851, but apparently not in 1861 - unless elsewhere?
I haven't looked at the original 1861 page so i don't know if Ann is as married or as a widow.
Hope the former....

Jack
ps, Lesley, please forget what i've written...!

LesleyB · Post by **LesleyB** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 9:16 pm

Hi Jack
I was jumping to conclusions perhaps - you had William listed in 1851 but not in '61. So I thought he may have died by then? But you are quite right, I apologise for being hasty in my assumptions (I should know by now that is not a good idea !!) - he could be away somewhere working, visiting someone ...or having a night oot with the boys...

Lets hope Ann was still listed as married.

Best wishes
Lesley

yvonne · Post by **yvonne** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 9:26 pm

LesleyB wrote:Hi Yvonne
About William's marriage:
The OPRs don't usually give a great deal of info to work with when it comes to banns. Usually it will be something like this:

OPR Parish of Cardross, County of Dumbarton
June 2nd 1811, James Davie and Susannah Guy both in this Parish gave in their names for proclamation in order to Banns and received Extracts.
Sometimes a little more info is given - an occupation for the groom, perhaps the name of a farm where one of them lived, and even very occaisionally a father's name is given for the bride. You are highly unlikley to find the parents of William mentioned at all (never seen this, but I live in hope! ). However, having said that, it is always well worth looking at a copy of the original entry on microfilm, even if it is brief. You can do this in Edinburgh or at your local LDS centre where you can order the relevant film.

About finding his death: Looking at the census info it looks like your couple both still seem to be alive in 1851, so looks like William died between 51-61 which may put a spanner in the works! If he died before 1855 there will not be a death entry, but you may be able to follow up MIs (monumental inscriptions) or burial info - neither of these options are likley to give you parents names. If he died after 1855, there should be a death entry for him. Have you had a look on the Scotlands People site to see if there are any likely candidates who died between 1855-61?

If he died between 1851-55 another option is to look at the names of his children - the first born son and the second daughter might give you clues as to the names of his parents, if he followed the Scots naming pattern, then go looking for a William born Renfrewshire about the correct time (based on age on census) and see what turns up!

Best wishes
Lesley

Hi there, Just to let you know that i have a copy of the Banns but this only gives their names and date of marriage.

I know that William must have died between 61-71. I think i have some info to go with for now thanks. Will let you know how i get on,

Yvonne

Jack · Post by **Jack** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 9:33 pm

Hi Yvonne,
Just being nosey!

Why do you think William died 1861-1871?
From children's MCs?
Jack

trish1 · Post by **trish1** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 12:36 am

There is one only entry on the IGI for a William Cameron baptised about the correct time in Abbey Paisley - Parent names don't look spectacular for naming patterns of the children.

WILLIAM CAMERON
Christening: 15 NOV 1807 Abbey (Paisley), Renfrew, Scotland
Father: JOHN CAMERON Mother: SARAH CAMERON

Trish

yvonne · Post by **yvonne** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 10:17 pm

Jack wrote:Hi Yvonne,
Just being nosey! Why do you think William died 1861-1871?
From children's MCs?
Jack

Hi Jack, Well he was recorded on his son William`s wedding cert in 1861 and again on his daughter Clara`s but as deceased 1869.

Yvonne

yvonne · Post by **yvonne** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 10:20 pm

trish1 wrote:There is one only entry on the IGI for a William Cameron baptised about the correct time in Abbey Paisley - Parent names don't look spectacular for naming patterns of the children.

WILLIAM CAMERON
Christening: 15 NOV 1807 Abbey (Paisley), Renfrew, Scotland
Father: JOHN CAMERON Mother: SARAH CAMERON

Trish

Hi Trish, thanks for this. It`s something to move on with.

Yvonne

yvonne · Post by **yvonne** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 10:27 pm

Jean Jeanie wrote:Yvonne

I had a look on SP for them in 1851 but no luck.

However in 1861 there are the following in Hutchestown Lanark. Don't know if they are all in the same household or not as I have no credits left.

William Cameron aged 57
Anna Cameron aged 62
Clara Cameron aged 21.

Worth a look I would think.

Jean

Hi Jean, just looked on the cencus for 1861 and Anna is named as the head (aged 62) no mention of William???

Yvonne

Jack · Post by **Jack** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 10:41 pm

Hi Yvonne,
Is Anna 62 as married, or a widow in 1861?
Jack

LesleyB · Post by **LesleyB** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 10:42 pm

Yvonne
Have you checked on Scotlands People for your William's death?

A quick search tells me there are three William Camerons who were born 1807 +/- 3 years and died between 1861 - 69 (the years you have mentioned). I take it you have ruled out these three as possible candidates? I'm not sure where they are situated I don't have enough credits to check any of them, one is in Midlothian, none in Lanark and none of them appear to be in Renfrewshire....

Best wishes
Lesley