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Elizabeth
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Post by Elizabeth » Wed Jul 05, 2006 3:56 pm

Hello David,
You have certainly given me a lot of help. Unfortunately, I've tried getting the Scottish censuses on ancestry.com but they are not there. I've e-mailed ancestry.com to let me know how I can access them on their site and they usually reply within a day or two. When I do get that information I can get on with it.
Thanks a lot
Elizabeth

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Post by Tracey » Wed Jul 05, 2006 4:01 pm

Elizabeth the only Scottish census you can access on Ancestry is the 1841 and that is only a transcript (?) you cant view the original. You will get all the Scottish census ie 1841-1901 on www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk also for a fee :wink: but well worth it
Scotland - Donaldson / Moggach / Shaw / Geddes / Sim / Gray / Mackie / Richards / Joel / Coull / Mckimmie / Panton / McGregor
Ireland and Scotland - Casey / McDade / Phillips / McCandle / Dinely / Comaskey + various spellings

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Post by DavidWW » Wed Jul 05, 2006 4:54 pm

Tracey wrote:Elizabeth the only Scottish census you can access on Ancestry is the 1841 and that is only a transcript (?) you cant view the original. You will get all the Scottish census ie 1841-1901 on www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk also for a fee :wink: but well worth it
Which is where I got the various entries for 1851 and 1861.

David

Elizabeth
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James Farquarson Cordiner

Post by Elizabeth » Thu Jul 06, 2006 3:36 pm

Hi David,
Well I joined scottishpeople but can't find J F Farquarson on any of the censuses. Obviously I'm not doing something right! Did you get all your info from scottshpeople?I was so excited as I thought I was getting somewhere at long last.
Anyway, I'll keep trying.
Cheers
Elizabeth

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Re: James Farquarson Cordiner

Post by DavidWW » Thu Jul 06, 2006 3:51 pm

Elizabeth wrote:Hi David,
Well I joined scottishpeople but can't find J F Farquarson on any of the censuses. Obviously I'm not doing something right! Did you get all your info from scottshpeople?I was so excited as I thought I was getting somewhere at long last.
Anyway, I'll keep trying.
Cheers
Elizabeth
Elizabeth

Who's J F Farquarson :?:

I did find plain James CORDINER on the 1851 census at www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk , in the household of his father John, and mother Catherine, - James was recorded as 22, and shown as "Mar" = Married, and "Mason".

The guidance to the census enumerators was that they were not to record middle names, as in this case with James Farquarson Cordiner (although, fortunately, some enumerators did).

Again, the plain James, aged 32, Stonemason, turns up in Edinburgh in 1861, this time with wife Margret [sic] and wains William, Arthur, and Margret, as well as his mother Catherine, but the spelling of the surname is not CORDINER .......... Hint, search on CORD*NER ...........

David

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Post by Elizabeth » Wed Jul 12, 2006 4:27 pm

Hi David,
I managed to get James Farquarson Cordiner on the 1851 census with his parents John and Catherine.I just couldn't make out where Catherine was born as it wasn't very clear.I couldn't find James on the 1841 or 1861 censuses.You did say to search on the basis of CORD*NER to find him and his family on the 1861 census but I don't know what you meant by ( CORD*NER) I would be interested to know how you got the rest of the information on him. I've just re-joined scotlandspeople. I was with them in 2000 and it seemed a lot easier then to get info than it does now. ( Probably just me )
Regards
Elizabeth

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Post by Jean Jeanie » Wed Jul 12, 2006 5:20 pm

Hello Elizabeth

See David's link to show how to use wildcards on Scotlandspeople.

Your Cordiner could have been spelled Cordener. The asterisk covers both options.

viewtopic.php?t=3645

Jean

PS Same when looking for Elizabeth/Elisabeth. Search for Eli*abeth will cover both spellings.

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Post by DavidWW » Wed Jul 12, 2006 5:28 pm

Elizabeth wrote:Hi David,
I managed to get James Farquarson Cordiner on the 1851 census with his parents John and Catherine.I just couldn't make out where Catherine was born as it wasn't very clear.I couldn't find James on the 1841 or 1861 censuses.You did say to search on the basis of CORD*NER to find him and his family on the 1861 census but I don't know what you meant by ( CORD*NER) I would be interested to know how you got the rest of the information on him. I've just re-joined scotlandspeople. I was with them in 2000 and it seemed a lot easier then to get info than it does now. ( Probably just me )
Regards
Elizabeth
Hi Elizabeth

Back in that era the spelling of surnames was very flexible and quite variable.

The use of the search term CORD*NER means that "*" can mean any and/or all single or multiple letters, - leading to a surname such as CORDINER, or alternately CORDNER ..........................

David

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Post by Elizabeth » Thu Jul 13, 2006 2:29 pm

Hello again David,

J F Farquarson is James Farquarson Cordiner. A silly mistake for me to make. I've got the name" Farquarson" on the brain!!!

I've found James Cordiner on the 1861 census thanks to you. Hopefully I can now get further back in my Tree .

Thanks again

Elizabeth