30 miles frae the cradle tae the grave

Looking for Scottish Ancestors

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SarahND
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Post by SarahND » Fri Mar 02, 2007 7:19 pm

Hi Meg,
garibaldired wrote: What does this show about my forebears?!
:-k Don't know! May be occupation related? What do you think? Sounds like we have the beginnings of a very complex database if we start to bring in all the factors :shock:
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Sarah

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Post by garibaldired » Fri Mar 02, 2007 7:27 pm

Sarah,

I don't have many common occupations actually apart from one father and son who were grocers - they were homebodies!
I think any database would indeed be VERY complex.
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Meg
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Post by AnneM » Fri Mar 02, 2007 7:29 pm

Hi

Have not calculated mine but the original post said that they were buried or cremated rather than died so you would have to factor into the equation those who moved but who expressed a wish to be buried in or near their home parish as my great grandmother did. She died in Sandbank near Dunoon and was buried in Ardrossan, which was her home.

Actually I think I would chose that for myself too...... not Ardrossan but the churchyard where all my family are buried.

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Post by SarahND » Fri Mar 02, 2007 7:36 pm

Oh my, that does begin to get complex (and into the realm of psychology?) if we have to calculate how many wanted to be buried/have their ashes interred near where they were born. And where do we put the ones who wanted that, but it didn't happen? :shock: Maybe we'd better stop this right now :!: Or at least, content ourselves with the figures and not try to speculate what it all means...
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Sarah

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Post by nelmit » Fri Mar 02, 2007 8:04 pm

SarahND wrote:Oh my, that does begin to get complex (and into the realm of psychology?) if we have to calculate how many wanted to be buried/have their ashes interred near where they were born. And where do we put the ones who wanted that, but it didn't happen? :shock: Maybe we'd better stop this right now :!: Or at least, content ourselves with the figures and not try to speculate what it all means...
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Sarah
And what about my Mum in Law who died within half a mile of her birth place in Glasgow but had her wishes fulfilled when her ashes were scattered in the Firth of Clyde at Rothesay where she spent her honeymoon :?: :!:

See whit you've started Davie! :lol:

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Post by trotterbeck » Fri Mar 02, 2007 8:35 pm

I have been adding to my research by doing a bit on my daughter-in-laws family.
Because I managed to get a link to someone else, who has researched for far longer than I, I have managed to get one branch back to a birth in 1475, so far as I can see this branch involves 15 generations of births all apparently within 20 mls until 1925.

They may well have moved/travelled further but they kept going back to the same area of Kent.
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Post by grannysrock » Fri Mar 02, 2007 8:38 pm

Thought provoking question Davie ( and I'm glad yer oot'n'aboot btw)

Grandparents 2 out of 4 = 50 %
Greatgrandparents 6 out of 8 = 75 %
GGGgrandparents 14 out of 16 = 87.5 % erm?
( 2 died further away but were buried in the parish of their birth )
After that my brain starts to hurt, but my instinct is the percentage was much, much lower in the 19th century.

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Post by AndrewP » Fri Mar 02, 2007 10:01 pm

I have only explored my Dad's side of the family. Mum's side were from well south of the border and apart from information handed down, I have very little genealogical paperwork, so I will only count my paternal side in Davie's question.

Paternal Grandparents 2/2 = 100%
Paternal G-Grandparents 4/4 = 100%
Paternal G-G-Grandparents 8/8 = 100%
Paternal G-G-G-Grandparents 13/13 (probably 16/16 - three birthplaces not proven) = 100%

My paternal lot were mostly agricultural labourers and seldom moved far from their birth parish. Different farms for most occasions, but all within a small locality.

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Post by WilmaM » Sat Mar 03, 2007 12:41 am

Parent - 100% [Dad still alive and well]
Grand parents - 50% died near home , 75% buried near home [ 1 died on holiday]
Great Grandparents - 37% died & buried near to home

Assorted Aunts and cousins - 40% died and buried near home.

Of my own generation, none of us are within 30 miles of 'home'. Of my cousins only 1 of the 14 live any where near their birthplace [ and he is close by but in a different country!!]

Looks as if we are a mobile lot: Australia , New Zealand, Central Asia, England, Angus, Stirlingshire - all more than 30 miles from Ibrox!
Wilma

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Post by ellenavon » Sat Mar 03, 2007 1:42 pm

Very interesting exercise.

Here's my tuppence worth:

Parents - likely to be 0% - dad is still very much alive thankfully, but unlikely to move back to home territory.

Grandparents - 25% - 1 of 4 died within 30miles.

Great Grandparents - 50% - 4 of 8. Genders evenly split.

Great Great Grandparents - 50% - 8 of 16. Genders evenly split.

Mostly of farming stock, although I've a policeman and a couple of hawkers in there!

Cheers

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