Different mother's name on certificates
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Brenda
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Brenda
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The writing is very clear, on John's 1st m/c to Agnes Miller [1865] he states his age as 28, she was 25.
Yet on his second marriage certificate [June 5th 1874] his age is 30, [ should be 37?] Elizabeth Gibbon's 22, making an age difference of 8 years.
BUT..in the he 1881 Census he is 31 , Elizabeth 28 , a difference of only 3 years .
I always thought he was born abt.1834 / 1835 Colmonell , Ayrshire , now have a horrible feeling that after all this searching I have the wrong John McCracken.

Yet on his second marriage certificate [June 5th 1874] his age is 30, [ should be 37?] Elizabeth Gibbon's 22, making an age difference of 8 years.
BUT..in the he 1881 Census he is 31 , Elizabeth 28 , a difference of only 3 years .
I always thought he was born abt.1834 / 1835 Colmonell , Ayrshire , now have a horrible feeling that after all this searching I have the wrong John McCracken.
Brenda
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Jack
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Re John McCracken - age
Hi Brenda,
I think you've the right John McCRACKEN; he's just a tad confused on his true age!
You'll probably have these two censuses?
The original 1841 page might show John as 1yr is wrong, and shd be 7yrs.
This would make more sense as he's aged 16 in 1851.
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1841 census 594 Ed 15 p 8 (Girvan)
Dalrymple St.
John McCRACKEN, 40, Baker j., b SCT
Jinet McCRACKEN, 40, -------------b AYR
Elen McCRACKEN, 15, -------------b SCT
John McCRACKEN, 1, --------------b AYR [shd age be 7yrs ?]
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1851 census 594 (482) ED 14 pp 8-9 (Girvan)
Dalrymple St.
John McCRACKEN, 49, head, Master baker emp 3 men, b Glasgow, LKs
Janet McCRACKEN, 50, wife, House keeper, b Ballantrae, AYR
Helen ?HINT?, step-daur, 23, Dressmaker, b Glasgow, LKS
John McCRACKEN Junr, 16, Baker, b Colmonell, AYR
John McCULLOCH, servant, 23, Baker, b Dalmellington, AYR
Robert ?LIMON?, servant, 17, Baker, b Girvan, AYR
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Jack
I think you've the right John McCRACKEN; he's just a tad confused on his true age!
You'll probably have these two censuses?
The original 1841 page might show John as 1yr is wrong, and shd be 7yrs.
This would make more sense as he's aged 16 in 1851.
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1841 census 594 Ed 15 p 8 (Girvan)
Dalrymple St.
John McCRACKEN, 40, Baker j., b SCT
Jinet McCRACKEN, 40, -------------b AYR
Elen McCRACKEN, 15, -------------b SCT
John McCRACKEN, 1, --------------b AYR [shd age be 7yrs ?]
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1851 census 594 (482) ED 14 pp 8-9 (Girvan)
Dalrymple St.
John McCRACKEN, 49, head, Master baker emp 3 men, b Glasgow, LKs
Janet McCRACKEN, 50, wife, House keeper, b Ballantrae, AYR
Helen ?HINT?, step-daur, 23, Dressmaker, b Glasgow, LKS
John McCRACKEN Junr, 16, Baker, b Colmonell, AYR
John McCULLOCH, servant, 23, Baker, b Dalmellington, AYR
Robert ?LIMON?, servant, 17, Baker, b Girvan, AYR
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Jack
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DavidWW
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Jack
See the thread at http://talkingscot.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8153
I thought that you'd been here before
1841 census 594 Ed 15 p 9 (Girvan)
Dalrymple Street.
John McCRACKEN, 40, Baker J, b SCT
Jinet McCRACKEN, 40, ---------b AYR
Elen McCRACKEN, 15, ---------b SCT
John McCRACKEN, 7, ---------b AYR [changed 1 to 7]
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1851 census 594 (482) Ed 14 pp 8-9 (Girvan)
Dalrymple Street.
John McCRACKEN, head, 49, Master Baker emp. 3 men, b Glasgow, LKS
Janet McCRACKEN, wife, 50, Housekeeper, b Ballantrae, AYR
Helen HINT?, step-daur, 23, Dress Maker, b Glasgow, LKS [should be VINT?] could be, name has 4 letters and ends INT
John McCRACKEN, Junr, son, 16, Baker, b Colmonell, AYR
John McCULLOCH, servant, 23, Baker, b Dalmellington, AYR
Robert LIMON/SIMON, servant, 17, Baker, b Girvan, AYR [could be either name]
David
See the thread at http://talkingscot.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8153
I thought that you'd been here before
1841 census 594 Ed 15 p 9 (Girvan)
Dalrymple Street.
John McCRACKEN, 40, Baker J, b SCT
Jinet McCRACKEN, 40, ---------b AYR
Elen McCRACKEN, 15, ---------b SCT
John McCRACKEN, 7, ---------b AYR [changed 1 to 7]
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1851 census 594 (482) Ed 14 pp 8-9 (Girvan)
Dalrymple Street.
John McCRACKEN, head, 49, Master Baker emp. 3 men, b Glasgow, LKS
Janet McCRACKEN, wife, 50, Housekeeper, b Ballantrae, AYR
Helen HINT?, step-daur, 23, Dress Maker, b Glasgow, LKS [should be VINT?] could be, name has 4 letters and ends INT
John McCRACKEN, Junr, son, 16, Baker, b Colmonell, AYR
John McCULLOCH, servant, 23, Baker, b Dalmellington, AYR
Robert LIMON/SIMON, servant, 17, Baker, b Girvan, AYR [could be either name]
David
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Jack
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Re John McCracken - age
Thanks David,
After getting this 1861, i said to myself "all this seems very familiar..."
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1861 census 644-1 Ed 12 p 11 (St. David)
Janet McCRACKEN, head, 72,-------------- b Ballantrae, AYR 15
Helen McCRACKEN, daur, 34, House keeper, b Glasgow, LKS
John McCRACKEN, son, 26, Store keeper, b Colmonell, AYR
John McCREDIE, gr-son, 5, ---------------------b Girvan, AYR
John McCOLL, boarder, 20?, Baker, b Girvan, AYR
Arthur A. JAMIESON?, boarder, 17, Medical student, b St. Pierre, Guernsey
Burns MOORE, boarder, 19, Medical student, b Ireland
Mary DONALDSON, servant, 24, Table maid, b Glasgow, LKS
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Jack
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ps, memory really going...that was only 5 wks ago, and i'd already forgotten...!
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After getting this 1861, i said to myself "all this seems very familiar..."
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1861 census 644-1 Ed 12 p 11 (St. David)
Janet McCRACKEN, head, 72,-------------- b Ballantrae, AYR 15
Helen McCRACKEN, daur, 34, House keeper, b Glasgow, LKS
John McCRACKEN, son, 26, Store keeper, b Colmonell, AYR
John McCREDIE, gr-son, 5, ---------------------b Girvan, AYR
John McCOLL, boarder, 20?, Baker, b Girvan, AYR
Arthur A. JAMIESON?, boarder, 17, Medical student, b St. Pierre, Guernsey
Burns MOORE, boarder, 19, Medical student, b Ireland
Mary DONALDSON, servant, 24, Table maid, b Glasgow, LKS
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Jack
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ps, memory really going...that was only 5 wks ago, and i'd already forgotten...!
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DavidWW
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Re: Re John McCracken - age
It took me a few minutes to twig that these census entries had appeared beforeJack wrote:Thanks David,
After getting this 1861, i said to myself "all this seems very familiar..."
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David