Is It possible names get mixed up

Looking for Scottish Ancestors

Moderator: Global Moderators

emanday
Global Moderator
Posts: 2927
Joined: Tue May 30, 2006 12:50 am
Location: Born in Glasgow: now in Bristol

Post by emanday » Thu Apr 19, 2007 1:49 pm

Hi Carol,

IGI has a completely different spelling, and there seems to be a brother to Janet.

This IS a submitted entry, so that could account for the spelling...

Father: WILLIAM TAYLER
Mother: MARGARET TRIPNEY

JANET TAYLER
Birth: 22 MAY 1790
Christening: 28 MAY 1790 Muiravonside, Stirling, Scotland

PETER TAYLER
Birth: 08 JUN 1793
Christening: 13 JUN 1793 Muiravonside, Stirling, Scotland
[b]Mary[/b]
A cat leaves pawprints on your heart
McDonald or MacDonald (some couldn't make up their mind!), Bonner, Crichton, McKillop, Campbell, Cameron, Gitrig (+other spellings), Clark, Sloan, Stewart, McCutcheon, Ireland (the surname)

apanderson
Posts: 395
Joined: Fri May 27, 2005 9:05 am
Location: Stirlingshire

Post by apanderson » Thu Apr 19, 2007 6:37 pm

Hi Carol,

Have you been able to get an occupation for William Taylor of Muiravonside?

There's a gravestone in Muiravonside Churchyard and the inscription is as follows: "The Buring Place of William Taylor, Farmer ....."

Unfortunately there's nothing else visible as a large section of the front of the stone has flaked off, so no way of knowing if he was your William Taylor.

This stone is listed in the pre-1855 MI Book for East Stirlingshire and it seems to have been in the same condition when the Churchyard was surveyed in October 1967 as the published inscription hasn't anymore info than the above.

The name Tripney seems to be quite a common surname around the Muiravonside area - I had a wee look at the British Vital Records CD's and there's dozens of births between 1811 and 1835.

If you would like a copy of a photograph of the above stone, PM me with your private e-mail address and I'll send you one through.

Anne

Carolann
Posts: 84
Joined: Sun Feb 06, 2005 4:27 pm

Post by Carolann » Thu Apr 19, 2007 11:25 pm

anne and emanday,

Thank you for this info - great stuff from all of you.

I have another question - is grace and grizel the same name - i keep finding all these things this week.

Grace hastie b 29/06/1802 port glasgow and christened 8/7/1802 and found a grizel hastie with the same christening date - is she the same person or a twin

Carol
Carol

Jean Jeanie
Global Moderator
Posts: 1288
Joined: Sun Dec 12, 2004 6:54 pm
Location: Stafford West Mids

Post by Jean Jeanie » Thu Apr 19, 2007 11:40 pm

Hi Carol

Grace/Grizel are interchangeable.

Have a look at this site

http://www.whatsinaname.net/index.html

Jean

Carolann
Posts: 84
Joined: Sun Feb 06, 2005 4:27 pm

Post by Carolann » Fri Apr 20, 2007 5:27 pm

Hi Jean

thank you for this link. So she is the same person.

Cheers

Carol
Carol

Jean Jeanie
Global Moderator
Posts: 1288
Joined: Sun Dec 12, 2004 6:54 pm
Location: Stafford West Mids

Post by Jean Jeanie » Fri Apr 20, 2007 5:42 pm

Hi Carol

I don't know if you are aware of the difference between "submissions" on the www.familysearch.org site and "extracts"

Extracts are exactly what they say they are........Extracts from the OPR records and are therefore genuine.

Submissions are made by people who have previously researched this family and these are their own findings. They are sometimes accurate, sometimes not. If you find a submission you need to check out the information for yourself.

In this case Grizel Hastie is an extract. The entries for Grace Hastie are submissions. However they do tie up, in this instance

Jean

Russell
Posts: 2559
Joined: Sat Dec 24, 2005 5:59 pm
Location: Kilbarchan, Renfrewshire

Post by Russell » Fri Apr 20, 2007 7:06 pm

Hi Jean

You said
........Extracts from the OPR records and are therefore genuine.
. Almost all the time. Exceptions being where the transcriber was unable to read the entry and put down what they thought it said, which, occasionally is way off the mark; sometimes quite close but not close enough to be picked up in the normal search.
Having viewed some of the originals I have every sympathy with their difficulties. :?

Russell
Working on: Oman, Brock, Miller/Millar, in Caithness.
Roan/Rowan, Hastings, Sharp, Lapraik in Ayr & Kirkcudbrightshire.
Johnston, Reside, Lyle all over the place !
McGilvray(spelt 26 different ways)
Watson, Morton, Anderson, Tawse, in Kilrenny

G.Love
Posts: 60
Joined: Fri Jan 07, 2005 2:21 pm
Location: Argyll, Scotland

Post by G.Love » Tue Apr 24, 2007 12:22 pm

Also, I seem to remember people of an older generation pronouncing the word "threepence" as "thruppence" or even sometimes "thrippence". My mother would call anything costing threepence as a "thrippeny" - whatever it was. Or would say "I wouldn't give you thrippence for it".
seeking McColl from Donegal and Greenock, McKay from Antrim and Greenock;
Whiteford from Ballycastle and Greenock; Tucker from Port Glasgow, and McGinty.

Carolann
Posts: 84
Joined: Sun Feb 06, 2005 4:27 pm

Post by Carolann » Tue Apr 24, 2007 8:52 pm

hI

Yes. I always remember my gran using the saying thripennce never realising generations back the name was part of thr family, Hopefully will be able to trace even further back on the tripenny name. Here hoping.

Cheers

Carol
Carol