Agnes Prentice - have we done all we can

Post by **SarahND** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 1:17 pm

Snap, BJ!!!

Was just about to post Rebecca in 1851 when I saw you'd already done so!
Regards,
Sarah

Post by **SarahND** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 1:49 pm

If James and Dennis get easily confused for each other, and remembering that his wife was supposed to be Margaret... here is a James and Margaret couple in 1851. The whole family was born in Ireland, though. Do you know the names of any of Agnes' siblings?

141 New Vennel, Glasgow College, Lanarkshire
James Prentice, 51, Head, born Ireland, Weaver
Margt Prentice, 50, Wife, born Ireland
Ann Prentice, 16, Daughter, born Ireland, Fransfener In Pottery (Transferer?)
John Prentice, 14, Son, born Ireland, Potter (app)
Margt Prentice, 7, Daughter, born Ireland, Scholar

Regards,
Sarah

Muriel · Post by **Muriel** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 2:41 pm

Thanks Sarah & BJ! I've just posted the image of the 1841 census to the gallery - awaiting approval. The Prentice family are listed at the top of the second column. If Freecen have him as Denis & Ancestry as James, SP have obviously given up trying to decipher his name but have decided his initial is F

- no wonder I couldn't find him.

http://talkingscot.com/gallery/displayi ... ?pos=-1202

I've just checked SP for 1851 & neither Mrs P in Paisley or Rebecca in Mearns have images attached -

I've not yet found William in Bridgeton - he doesn't seem to be listed at all in either Freecen or on SP. I've not got a subscription to Ancestry so can't check from there. I'll need to read what you've just given me about the other family Sarah - I have no idea about Agnes' siblings.

Muriel

Gallery url added by Marilyn

Post by **SarahND** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 3:01 pm

Hi Muriel,
Is there any chance that the "Dennis" on Agnes' death record could be "James"? Or is that one clear?
Haven't seen your posted census yet-- nobody from the Admin appear to be online at the moment...
Regards,
Sarah

Muriel · Post by **Muriel** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 3:14 pm

Hi Sarah

I did re-check the DC & while the remainder of the name could easily be "ames" or "enis" the capital D is quite clear and comparable with at least on other D on the page & totally different from the way J is written.

I suppose it's possible the widower mumbled & James was heard as Denis - altho' James was literate most people don't read the death certificate as they receive it & if he became aware of the mistake later I guess he wouldn't bother to get it amended. James makes a lot more sense in terms of the names of the Miller children.

I've been looking at the Denis/James family in Mearns & wonder if he might have been married twice. There's quite a gap in age between Elizabeth & Margaret so Janet could easily be a second wife & mother of the younger children. It would be helpful to find DCs for Jane or Elizabeth & see what their mother's name is but knowing how elusive this family is I hae ma douts!

Muriel

Muriel · Post by **Muriel** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 8:40 pm

Has anybody had a chance to look at my image? I wouldn't be sure whether the name began with a D or a J - I don't think it's an F. Even comparing it with other initial letters on the same page doesn't seem to help.

Muriel

Post by **SarahND** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 8:49 pm

Hi Muriel,
I think it looks like the same letter as the D in David further down the page. It looks like "Dinis"

Regards,
Sarah

Muriel · Post by **Muriel** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 10:07 pm

Hi Sarah

I wanted to think it was Dinis too but was wary of being too ready to take that as the truth. That's certainly how he would have said it if he was Irish! Somehow that family "feels" right & I could accept that son-in-law got his mother-in-law's name wrong on the DC. On the other hand the census enumerator could have done so. I've got another family where the mother, Mary, is recorded as Margaret in one census & Jane in another but it's quite clear that they are the same family because her age all the other family members match.

If these are her family, I'll now have to wonder why Agnes was in Ayr when she married. The 2 older girls were in the textile trade, Jane as a cotton handloom weaver & Elizabeth as a cotton piecer but it looks as if Agnes perhaps opted to go into service or something of that sort. Her husband was a baker.

Thanks for looking

Regards

Muriel