Missing Dunns

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smiddykilry
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Post by smiddykilry » Sat Dec 13, 2008 10:23 pm

Hi Carol
I see on that list a Ellen Bain age 21, I wonder if there is a link with Isabella (1851 Isabella Bain age 3) now Dunn.
Isabella Bowman on the IGI has 2 sisters: Agnes 1820 & Elisabeth 1827 but don't see any Bowman / Neish marriage yet

Smid
Dunn, Rough, Smith, Bruce, Paterson, Paton. Wylie,
Stewart, Reid, Gardiner, Rollo, Turner, Dutch, Laing, Forsyth, Robb, Hardie.
Kennedy, Kandow, Winter, Vollum, Hastie.

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Post by Susan » Sat Dec 13, 2008 11:04 pm

Hi

There is a death on SP in 1860 in Balmerino, Fife of a William Dunn, age unspecified. Certainly worth a look.

Susan.

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Post by speleobat2 » Sat Dec 13, 2008 11:42 pm

Smid,

Neish also comes up as Nash on Ancestry so that's a possibility. The Elizabeth Neish isn't Isabella's sister I don't think because there is an Elizabeth Bowman in Cupar who marries a John Reekie in 1858 which makes me think that this isn't your Isabella with the Neishs after all.

The death in 1860 is for a William Dunn shepard who is married, but it doesn't give his wife's name! His father is shown as William Dunn and his mother as Isabel Dutch--I think. His brother David is the informant or witness. Does that fit?

Ellen Bain could be a relative or not. The boarding school is in Perth so it's hard to tell and I bet Ellen Bain is not a rare name at all!

Carol xmas:biggrin:
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Munro, Cadenhead, Raitt, Ririe/Reary

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Post by speleobat2 » Sat Dec 13, 2008 11:58 pm

Smid,

There is also a death cert on SP for Elizabeth Dunn, age 7, mother's surname Bowman for 1861 in Kemback, Fife. This is probably Mary's sister.

Carol
Looking for: Clerihew, Longmuir/Longmore, Chalmers, Milne, Barclay in Newhills,
Munro, Cadenhead, Raitt, Ririe/Reary

smiddykilry
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Post by smiddykilry » Sun Dec 14, 2008 1:50 pm

Hi Carol
The death you found for William Dunn would be a big hit, his father was William also and his mother was Isabella Dutch :D
So well done, why could I not find that :?: must be old age or maybe that bottle of Jura has something to do with it :wink:
Must get some credits and check it out, a big thank you to you and everybody that posted on this thread =D>

Cheers [pour-drink]
Smid
Dunn, Rough, Smith, Bruce, Paterson, Paton. Wylie,
Stewart, Reid, Gardiner, Rollo, Turner, Dutch, Laing, Forsyth, Robb, Hardie.
Kennedy, Kandow, Winter, Vollum, Hastie.

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Post by speleobat2 » Sun Dec 14, 2008 6:36 pm

Hi Smid,

It was Susan who found the death cert for William. I just took a peek to satisfy my curiousity! Take a look at the death cert in1861 for little Elizabeth too. I'm betting that she is also yours. Don't know where Isabella was in 1861, but having lost her husband and then a daughter too, she might have just shut herself away to wait for the sun to come out again.

Good hunting!

Carol xmas:biggrin:
Looking for: Clerihew, Longmuir/Longmore, Chalmers, Milne, Barclay in Newhills,
Munro, Cadenhead, Raitt, Ririe/Reary

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Post by smiddykilry » Sun Dec 14, 2008 8:07 pm

Hello again
I have been busy downloading certs and so far it all checks out, Williams death, Isabella's 1870 remarriage, the 1871 census, Elizabeth,s death in 1861, and Mary's marriage in 1876. I will keep looking for Isabella in 1861, if that is Isabella age 14 Scholar in Perth in 1861 could be that mum is not too far away.
Sorry Susan :oops: got a wee bit mixed up there thank you for Finding William.

Bye the noo
Smid
Dunn, Rough, Smith, Bruce, Paterson, Paton. Wylie,
Stewart, Reid, Gardiner, Rollo, Turner, Dutch, Laing, Forsyth, Robb, Hardie.
Kennedy, Kandow, Winter, Vollum, Hastie.

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Post by speleobat2 » Wed Dec 17, 2008 1:04 am

Hi Smid,

How are you getting along with finding the Dunns now that you know where they were--mostly!

The census records for Isabella Christie are available for 1881 and 1891. There must have been some money in the family because by 1891 John is gone and Isabella and her grand daughter Isabella Campbell are living in a private house in Balmerino on "private means".

Mary and David Campbell are also there on the census records for 1881, 1891, and 1901. They move from Balmerino to Forgan and have 9 kids, though the oldest was born in 1872 before Mary and David were married so might be David's from a first marriage.

This all came from Ancestry, but should be on SP too if you haven't already found it.

Carol xmas:biggrin:
Looking for: Clerihew, Longmuir/Longmore, Chalmers, Milne, Barclay in Newhills,
Munro, Cadenhead, Raitt, Ririe/Reary

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Post by smiddykilry » Wed Dec 17, 2008 6:16 pm

Hi Carol
Yes I have most of the records I was looking for, on the 1881 census John Christie is recorded as Blind. Isabella dies 1892. David Campbell was a widow on his marriage to Mary.
On the 1901 Census I see that he and Mary had at least 5 sons with them all at the wrong age for the events that follow in the next decade.
The Janet Malcolm recorded as Gdaur on the 1871 census is mystery, have not found a birth record yet (keeping her for later) don't know where any money came from they all seem to be Ag lab, shepherds or outworkers, maybe the Isabella that went boarding school ended up with some dosh who knows?

Regards
Smid
Dunn, Rough, Smith, Bruce, Paterson, Paton. Wylie,
Stewart, Reid, Gardiner, Rollo, Turner, Dutch, Laing, Forsyth, Robb, Hardie.
Kennedy, Kandow, Winter, Vollum, Hastie.

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Post by SarahND » Wed Dec 17, 2008 6:35 pm

smiddykilry wrote: The Janet Malcolm recorded as Gdaur on the 1871 census is mystery, have not found a birth record yet (keeping her for later)
I suspect she is this one, from the IGI:

Jessie Dunn
Birth: 11 Nov 1870 Balmerino, Fife
Mother: Isabella Dunn

The father must have been a Malcolm-- there may be an RCE on the birth entry on SP giving his name.

All the best,
Sarah