searching for info on Margaret Stewart

ggirl · Post by **ggirl** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 9:10 pm

Blimey you two are brilliant , sorry i haven't replied sooner kids were hogging the laptop.

Lesley I will get onto SP and look for the birth cert for those two. At least we are gtting some where.

Jean - I LOVE the wild card,once I;d read your post a few times and got my head around it I understand that Margaret Stewart's father is maybe Cuthbertson. How did you find the birth cert of the grandmother?

So exciting !!

thanks

Pauline

ggirl · Post by **ggirl** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 9:14 pm

ooh cross posts

Annette and Jean Thanks

will pour over the new info

I am not as quick as you lot

Pauilne

LesleyB · Post by **LesleyB** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 9:34 pm

Hi Pauline

She is still alive and single at Ayr in 1891

Well that is looking good Annette- we don't want "our" one going off and marrying!

Maybe concentrate on the Straiton one first, Pauline... she is kinda looking more interesting just now, but as the birth is going to be pre-1855, so before Statutory Registration, you may not get as much info as you might hope for in the OPR.

On the other hand, if the birth is indeed one where the mother is not married, which may well be the case, then there may be info to follow up at NAS after all, with a check of the Kirk Session records for the parish to see what was said, if anything, with regard to the child being born to an unmarried mother.

Best wishes
Lesley

LesleyB · Post by **LesleyB** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 9:42 pm

Forget NAS! You can do it all in Ayrshire!

Reference CH2/533
Title Straiton Kirk Session
Dates 1732-1928
Access status Not held
Access conditions This record group is not in the NAS. It is held in Ayshire Archives.

If you are going to Ayrshire anyway it makes sense to view the Kirk Session documents there, rather than on the PCs at NAS

This looks like the one you would need. (on the assuption we are on the right track AND on the assumption that the Straiton one is the correct girl - so hold on a wee while until we are a little more certain before working on your plan of attack for the local research!)

Repository Burns Monument Centre, Kilmarnock
Reference CH2/533/3
Title Minutes
Dates 1816-1860
Access status Not held
Access conditions This record is not in the NAS. It is held in the Burns Monument Centre, Kilmarnock. This record has been digitally imaged, however, and the digital images may be seen in the NAS Search Rooms on the 'Virtual Volumes' system.

ggirl · Post by **ggirl** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 9:55 pm

Right have had a look for her birth.

There are no records of a Mary Stewart born in Straiton on that yr but there were 3 mary stewarts but two were the same

1 , parents are william stewart and margaret tannock on 1st dec in parish of Dregham in Ayr

2,illegitimate daughter of James Stewart and Elizabeth Smith 22/02/54
St.Quivox Ayr

ggirl · Post by **ggirl** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 10:00 pm

Lesley I have a horrible feeling that the Ayrshire Archive Centre is closed until the Autumn but will recheck.

Thanks so much for the ref and details .

Pauline

nelmit · Post by **nelmit** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 10:07 pm

ggirl wrote:Right have had a look for her birth.

There are no records of a Mary Stewart born in Straiton on that yr but there were 3 mary stewarts but two were the same

1 , parents are william stewart and margaret tannock on 1st dec in parish of Dregham in Ayr

2,illegitimate daughter of James Stewart and Elizabeth Smith 22/02/54
St.Quivox Ayr

Chances are you won't find it online. Like Lesley said you're best chance is to search the Kirk Sessions because she was illegitimate.

One of mine was born illegitimate at Maybole in 1854. I emailed Ayrshire Archives and a very kind archivist looked at the Kirk Sessions for me and sent me the details(no charge). It was a while ago but it might be worth a shot if you can't get there easily.

Regards,
Annette

JustJean · Post by **JustJean** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 10:09 pm

And from the 1891 census this one fits......

Name: Mary Stewart
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relationship: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Ayrshire
Registration Number: 625/1
Registration district: Bothwell
Civil parish: Bothwell
County: Lanarkshire
Address: View Park
Occupation: Domestic Servant
ED: 8
Household schedule number: 2
Line: 13
Roll: CSSCT1891_224
Household Members: Name Age
John Addie 50
Mary Dundas Addie 48
Robt Jardine Addie 20
John Addie 18
Mary Isbel Addie 11
Elizabeth Letsler 36
Christina Liston 30
John Black Spean 22
Mary McKay 43
Mary Stewart 39
Elizabeth Anderson 30
Mary Dodd 21
Catherine McLauchlaw 23

Best wishes
Jean

ggirl · Post by **ggirl** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 10:10 pm

Right panic over the burns monument place is open -it's the other archive place that is closed for the summer.

I am going up for a holiday on sundsy for a week,meeting my parents who live in canada.So will book a visit.

Can't wait now.

ggirl · Post by **ggirl** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 10:13 pm

Jean-What sort of place do you think View park was with all those varied people and names?