KENNET(H) Dundonald area abt 1750's.....

[Peter Cowley]

Alan wrote:

"You may have already covered this ground but here are some odds and ends I’ve found. There’s quite a variety of stuff available in the 19C newspapers and from Googling. I’ve only provided a rough summary."

Thanks very much Alan. A number of these citations will be very helpful.

Your contribution is very much appreciated.

Cheers,

Peter Cowley
Vancouver, BC Canada

[Raymond Crawfurd]

Dear Peter and Alan,
Thank you both for so much useful material. This is what I can add about the children of Colonel Robert Crawfurd (died 1843):
1) Frances
Born 28th July 1814 at Newfield, Dundonald (from Scotlandspeople)
2) Robert,
Born 27th April 1816 at Tixover, Rutlandshire (from Scotlandspeople)
Christened May 19th 1816 (from IGI)
Heir in Special cum beneficio Inventarii in Newfield, Galriggs, Moss-side etc to his father Robert Crawfurd of Newfield. Dated 15th Dec 1843 (from Services of Heirs in Scotland)
1845 Captain, Rifle Brigade (Army Lists)
1849-50 Major, Rifle Brigade " "
1850-51 Transferred to 66th Berkshire as Captain " "
1852-3 Listed under Resignations and retirements " "
Not in the Army List for 1853-4. No further information found

3)Emma
Born 23rd March at Newfield (from Scotlandspeople)
Married at Dundonald to George Walker 15th June 1841 (from IGI)

4) Letitia
Born 13th Feb 1824 at Newfield (from Scotlandspeople)
Married William Henry Orde-Powlett, 3rd Baron Bolton of Bolton Castle, 12th March 1844.
Died 4th Jan 1882.(from Burke's Landed Gentry 1853 edn)
I wroteto the present Lord Bolton to ask if he had any further information but did not
have a reply.

5) Patrick Reginald
Born Dundonald 27th April 1831 (from Scotlandspeople)

Peter, do you know if there are any descendants of Robert[3] or Galfridus who still have the surname Crawfurd?

[Peter Cowley]

Dear Raymond

First, I am quite certain that Robert (d.1843) had a sixth child, Julia. Her name pops up in my family papers and her existence is confirmed by Lord Bolton's bequest that Alan found and reported above.

With regard to the descendants of Robert (2): My information is that he had three children:

Frances Ann who is my great-grandmother;

Robert (3) who had 5 children, 2 sons neither of whom married and both of whom were killed in WW1 and three daughters only one of whom married but left no children; and,

Galfridus who had a son, Malcolm and a daughter who left no children.

It is a daughter of Malcolm that my daughter, Jessica, visited in England several years back. I have asked Jessica see if she can re-establish contact. If we get anywhere, I will certainly let you know.

We are getting somewhere certainly!

Cheers,

Peter

[Peter Cowley]

Hi Raymond

Using the BDM site that Alan mentioned, I have, I think found some data on Galfridus' son "Malcolm". His correct name based on a re-read of family docs is Galfridus Malcolm and a person of that name is shown with a birthdate of September 1899 in the district of Kingston.

Tip 'o the hat to Alan for pointing me to this extra info.

Cheers,

Peter

[Peter Cowley]

Hello again Raymond and Alan,

I am for now going to work on the presumption that, of the possible wives for Robert of the Robin Hood Rifles that Alan suggested, Ann will be the one. My great granny's name being Frances (her grandma's name) Ann (could be her mother's name) Crawfurd.

I will burrow further into the family docs to see if using this presumption, I can get confirmation.

Cheers

Peter

[Raymond Crawfurd]

Dear Peter and Alan,
Thank you both. I think I have found a lead on Emma Crawfurd and her husband George Walker, but the libraries are shut now and I will have to wait til Monday but will let you know what I find. Yours Raymond

[Raymond Crawfurd]

Dear Peter and Alan,
I have had a look at the Scotlandspeople website and can only find one marriage in Dundonald for a Robert Crawford betwen 1832 and 1854. It is for Robert Crawford and Christian McAdow, both of Dundonald who were married on 7th November 1837.Unfortunately there are no other details There is no record of births or baptisms for any Robert, Galfridus or Frances, children of Robert and Christian between 1837 and 1854, anywhere in Scotland, so either this is the right Robert and he and his wife left Scotland (not surprising if he was in the Army), or it is the wrong Robert. I checked the 1841 Census and although there are a Robert Crawford and a Christian Crawford recorded at Elphinstone House at Tullyallan in Fife, Robert is described as a shoemaker and his wife is Margaret and they are both 35 - clearly the wrong ones.Yours Raymond

[Raymond Crawfurd]

Peter, I forgot to mention that I found Julia's birth details on Scotlandspeople website. She was born or baptised at Dundonald, to Robert and Frances Crawford, on June 19th 1820. Raymond

[Currie]

Hello Raymond & Peter,

According to The Plantagenet Roll http://books.google.com.au/books?id=0aU ... 22&f=false Frederick Charles Bentinck Bagshaw, of Boulton’s Mounted Infantry (Victoria, British Columbia), b. Mar. 1867; m. 29 June 1888, Frances Ann da. of Lieut-Col. Robert Crawfurd, Rifle Brigade; and has issue (3 sons and 7 das.).

Presumably Frances Ann Crawfurd would have been about the same age as her husband, i.e. born about 1867. On the 1881 Census, Bolton Hall, Preston Under Soar, York, England, there’s the following household
William H. O. Powlett BOLTON Head M Male 63 Marylebone, Middlesex, England Baron In The Peerage Of Gt Britain Farmer Of 3400 Acres Employing 58 Men 23 Boys
Letitia BOLTON Wife M Female 57 Ayrshire, Scotland Baroness
Amias Lucien O.Powlett BOLTON Son U Male 25 Wensley, York, England Bachelor Of Arts
Frances A. CRAWFORD Cousin Female 16 Newcastle On Tyne, Northumberland, England
PLUS 23 Servants

Is this Frances A Crawford b. 1865, Newcastle, the daughter of Robert (2) who married Bagshaw. She certainly isn’t the cousin of Lord or Lady Bolton, but could be of the Son, who no doubt got the job of supplying the census information. Don’t worry about the spelling. The 1881 ‘British’ Census transcriptions can be accessed free here, but Scotland isn’t included. http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/ ... census.asp

If that’s her then it’s a pointer to the marriage and three births I listed in my previous post.

Here’s the 1841 Census transcription on FreeCen. http://freecen.rootsweb.com/ (In 1841 relationships weren’t shown and adult ages were usually rounded down to nearest 5 and the age of 42 for Frances may be suspect, rounded down to 45?)

1841 Census
Piece: SCT1841/590 Place: Dundonald -Ayrshire Enumeration District: 2
Civil Parish: Dundonald Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Dundonald
Folio: 2 Page: 28
Address: Newfield
CRAWFORD Frances F 42 England
CRAWFORD Fanny F 20 Ayrshire
CRAWFORD Emma F 18 Ayrshire
CRAWFORD Julia F 16 Ayrshire
CRAWFORD Letitia F 14 Ayrshire
CRAWFORD Reginald M 9 Ayrshire
PLUS 11 Servants

You’ll probably have to track this family using census returns and I suspect you’ll find most of them south of the border in England from about 1851. English census returns are available online from various places but the 1911 census is only available at FindMyPast. You may have some problems with the Crawfurd/Crawford thing.

You can apply for English BDM certificates here https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/cert ... efault.asp
English certificates are much more expensive and much less informative than the Scottish variety. You can get the registration number from the FreeBMD site but make sure you check the image so you know the transcription is correct. See also http://www.thosedixons.net/certificates/indexbmd.html

Robin Hoods uniform. My first thought was ‘Lincoln Green’ but I think Dark Green was the norm for Rifle Regiments.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mando_gal/4074140310/

There’s a picture of them on parade towards the end of this document.
http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cac ... cZ3Vx0rShg

All the best,
Alan

LATER: The parade ground picture may be better here http://communications.nottingham.ac.uk/ ... 0expdf.pdf

Alan

[Currie]

Back again,

This looks like Francis (Frances) living in Twickenham in 1881 with Robert’s (2) two sons and a niece (?) born Scotland.
Dwelling Mortimer Villa Strawberry Hill Rd
Census Place Twickenham, Middlesex, England
Family History Library Film 1341326
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 1343 / 17
Page Number 27
Francis CRAWFORD Head U Female 66 Scotland None
Robert CRAWFORD Nephew U Male 17 Northumberland, England Clerk at Bank
Galfrittus CRAWFORD Nephew U Male 13 London, London, Middlesex, England Scholar
Mary V. CRAWFORD Niece Female 7 Scotland
PLUS 2 Servants

The York Herald (York, England), Saturday, February 13, 1858
A list of shareholders in York Union Banking Company includes a Julia Crawfurd, Rothsay, spinster.

THE WALKERS:

The Morning Post (London), Wednesday, August 16, 1843
On the 13th inst., at Eastwood Hall, Nottinghamshire, the Lady of George Walker, Esq., of a daughter.

March 13, 1851.
Death of George Walker, age 45.
http://books.google.com.au/books?id=-ME ... 22&f=false

May 27, 1865.
Marriage of only daughter, Emma Georgiana, to Henry W. Langley. (middle name is William)
http://books.google.com.au/books?id=SU9 ... 22&f=false

Nottinghamshire Guardian (London), Friday, November 24, 1865
Death of Mrs Walker of Eastwood Hall –We regret to have the painful duty of recording the death of Mrs Walker, of Eastwood Hall, Notts. The melancholy event took place on Sunday at the residence of the deceased, and the cause of death, we understand, was disease of the heart. Mrs Walker was the widow of the late George Walker, Esq., and daughter of the late Colonel Crawfurd, Newfield, Ayrshire. The deceased lady was only in her forty-seventh year.

Alan