Missing father - Robert Glass

[DavidWW]

sorry, bit dense - RCE = ?

Register of Corrected Entries (RCE).

Once the register entry had been signed by the Registrar, no alteration or correction could be made to the original entry.

Instead, any such correction or alteration was made via an entry in the RCE.

In this case, Isabella obviously took out an action in the Sheriff Court against the alleged father, the Sheriff then judged that her action was justified and proven, so that the RCE entry will show the name of the father, and I'm betting on the surname being CLARK ..............

David

[emanday]

sorry, bit dense - RCE = ?

RCE = Record of Corrected Entry. It means an entry made later in the RCE to correct/update what is on the original entry.

If a child was registered as illegitemate but his parents were later to marry, as per Scottish law an entry would be made in the RCE legitimizing him and his original birth entry stamped/noted to refer to this..

[maple23]

sorry, bit dense - RCE = ?

Register of Corrected Entries (RCE).

Once the register entry had been signed by the Registrar, no alteration or correction could be made to the original entry.

Instead, any such correction or alteration was made via an entry in the RCE.

In this case, Isabella obviously took out an action in the Sheriff Court against the alleged father, the Sheriff then judged that her action was justified and proven, so that the RCE entry will show the name of the father, and I'm betting on the surname being CLARK ..............

David

on BC I found for William there is a note written in the margin about paternity but I can't make it out...should I upload it?

[DavidWW]

sorry, bit dense - RCE = ?

RCE = Record of Corrected Entry. It means an entry made later in the RCE to correct/update what is on the original entry.

If a child was registered as illegitemate but his parents were later to marry, as per Scottish law an entry would be made in the RCE legitimizing him and his original birth entry stamped/noted to refer to this..

No !!

The option was indeed open for the parents to seek such an RCE entry, but the provisions of Scots Law were such that, an RCE entry in the Register of Births or not, the subsequent marriage of the parents automatically legitimated the birth of the wain concerned, with only the one condition.

In other words there was no requirement in Scots Law such that legitimation only occurred when there was an RCE entry to that effect !!

The only condition for there to be automatic legitimation was that the parents had to be free at the time of the conception (not birth) of the wain concerned

Sir Harry Lauder's parents married 7 days after his birth, but there was never an RCE entry, and they were free to marry at the time of his conception

David

[DavidWW]

sorry, bit dense - RCE = ?

Register of Corrected Entries (RCE).

Once the register entry had been signed by the Registrar, no alteration or correction could be made to the original entry.

Instead, any such correction or alteration was made via an entry in the RCE.

In this case, Isabella obviously took out an action in the Sheriff Court against the alleged father, the Sheriff then judged that her action was justified and proven, so that the RCE entry will show the name of the father, and I'm betting on the surname being CLARK ..............

David

on BC I found for William there is a note written in the margin about paternity but I can't make it out...should I upload it?

For those unfamiliar with an RCE annotation in the extreme LH column, normally blank, that would be a good idea

David

[emanday]

Sorry David, not so much a mistake as illworded (is that a word?)

I stand corrected.

[DavidWW]

Sorry David, not so much a mistake as illworded (is that a word?)

I stand corrected.

Understood. Nae prob

The distinction is important, not least to the descendants of Sir Harry Lauder, - unfortunately, the only folk who can seek the RCE re legitimation are the parents, or the child later when an adult.

David

[AnneM]

Hi

Thought I would just check to see if Thomas was related to one of my Kerrs but not obviously so. You'll find Isabella's death in Haddington in 1919. Just to confuse matters her mother's maiden name was Clark so maybe a Mr Clark was not the culprit.

She is the daughter of Richard Glass, farm steward deceased and Agnes Glass m.s. Clark.

If you are interested in Thomas's death, he died in 1908 in Whittinghame and had a previous wife called Isabella Ponton.

Anne

[SarahND]

Just to confuse matters her mother's maiden name was Clark so maybe a Mr Clark was not the culprit.

Aha So it's possibly another case of someone misunderstanding whose mother's maiden name was being asked for... It will still be interesting then, to see who the alleged father was. Maybe it will take us in another direction altogether!
Thanks for that, Anne
Sarah

[AnneM]

Just noticed that previously it seemed that her mother's maiden name was Moffat, so it's that intrusive Clark from nowhere again. Maybe Mr Clark does come into the equation.

Anne

PS Did you see that Richard gets a bit of posthumous promotion??