SP are back to 'normal' again, but as before I can't save or print the image OPR in either way. I can do either with other certificates with no problems at all. OPR's print as a black page of ink.
I tried right clicking and "Save target as" on the image iteself and cannot, then tried on the File icon, which saves the icon only (!) on the "View" on the page entry, but get a message box announcing "Internet Explorer cannot download. No such interface supported".
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Robert COWAN missing from 1851 Scottish Census
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Can't find him on the census
Hi Jake,
Don't know if this is any help to you but I had a lot of trouble finding someone on the census. I found her by accident. I looked for her brother and found he was living with her and her husband. Yet the search always came up blank for her. Her name was Kezia Walkinshaw but the handwriting on the census is so bad that I am sure it was transcribed as something else. So maybe try some wild and wacky spellings or soundalikes. Maybe he was in Scotland and just mistranscribed? Or maybe not. Good luck.
Melody
Don't know if this is any help to you but I had a lot of trouble finding someone on the census. I found her by accident. I looked for her brother and found he was living with her and her husband. Yet the search always came up blank for her. Her name was Kezia Walkinshaw but the handwriting on the census is so bad that I am sure it was transcribed as something else. So maybe try some wild and wacky spellings or soundalikes. Maybe he was in Scotland and just mistranscribed? Or maybe not. Good luck.
Melody
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JustJean
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Hi melody
From reading your post I wonder if you're aware that it's possible to search on www.ScotlandsPeople.gov.uk using wildcards? It's a useful technique when the names your are seeking can be variably spelt. It's a simple concept.....use an asterisk symbol like so * to stand in for one or more letters or no letters. Use a question mark symbol to stand in for just one letter. So for example...with your name of Kezia Walkinshaw I'd be tempted to look for it like so:
Kez* Walkin*
This should not return too many choices but should also pick up a possible spelling like Keziah Walkingshay for a wild example. (I'm making that up just to show you an extreme!
)
Hope this might be helpful for your future searches.
Best wishes
Jean
From reading your post I wonder if you're aware that it's possible to search on www.ScotlandsPeople.gov.uk using wildcards? It's a useful technique when the names your are seeking can be variably spelt. It's a simple concept.....use an asterisk symbol like so * to stand in for one or more letters or no letters. Use a question mark symbol to stand in for just one letter. So for example...with your name of Kezia Walkinshaw I'd be tempted to look for it like so:
Kez* Walkin*
This should not return too many choices but should also pick up a possible spelling like Keziah Walkingshay for a wild example. (I'm making that up just to show you an extreme!
Hope this might be helpful for your future searches.
Best wishes
Jean
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Jack
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Robert Cowan
Hi Jake,
This from Ancestry; as CREVANI - haven't a clue what GROS & SP have it as!
Anyway, could this be Robert COWAN?
A look at the original page on the film roll may help.
Later - GROS has the name as COWAIN; i've now amended the census.
But i can sympathise with any transcriber on this one - it's not easy to be certain.
Cowan / Cowain - could be either.
--
1851 census 422 Ed 2, p 1, lines 1-4 (Dalgety - Fife)
West Square.
Robert COWAIN, head, 22, coal miner, b Dalgety, FIF
Elizabeth COWAIN, wife, 25, ------------b nk, MLN [just a birthplace error?]
Joseph COWAIN, son, 3, ----------------b Dalgety, FIF
Robert COWAIN, son, 1, ----------------b Dalgety, FIF
--
Jack
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ps - later again; this looks a fair possible for Robert COWAN in 1861.
Though he's dittoed as an ironstone miner, and not coal miner.
And perhaps it's just coincidence that he's boarding with a man of the same surname?
Can't see any obvious connection.
But Janet Cowan's 1855 BC says parents Robert Cowan & Elizabeth Penman married Shotts 1846.
--
1861 census 663. Ed 4 p 9 (Bo'ness - West Lothian)
South St.
John COWAN, head, marr, 40, ironstone miner, b Calder, LKS
Susan GIBB, wife, marr, 22, --------------------------b Bo'ness, Linlithgowshire
Grace COWAN, sister, 17, ----------------------------------b Shotts, LKS
Robert COWAN, boarder, marr, 33, ironstone miner, b Cairneyhill, FIF
Archibald THOMSON, boarder, 26, ironstone miner, b Cairneyhill, FIF
--
pps - and later yet...this concerns Robert's father Joseph COWAN.
I know you already have a lot of this, and perhaps it all? But in case not.
--
~1st marriage~
JOSEPH COWAN
MARGARET RATTRAY / RATTERY [seems to have died 1832-1837]
Marriage: 22 JAN 1825 Dalgety, Fife, Scotland
Marriage: 23 JAN 1825 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland
~some children~
*ROBERT COWAN - Birth abt 1827 Fife [various birthplaces on censuses etc]
**JAMES COWAN - Birth: 11 APR 1829 Dalgety, Fife
JOSEPH COWAN - Birth: 25 JAN 1832 Dalgety, Fife [presume died young?]
--
~2nd marriage~
JOSEPH COWAN
EUPHEMIA WALKER
Marriage: 24 AUG 1837 Saint Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Midlothian
Marriage: 25 AUG 1837 Aberdour, Fife, Scotland
~some children~
ANDW. WALKER COWAN - Birth: 30 SEP 1840 Dalgety, Fife, Scotland
WALTER COWAN - Birth: 01 MAR 1845; Chr: 06 APR 1845 Aberdour, Fife [presume died young?]
==
1841 census 405 (Auchterderran - Fife)
Dundonald Colliery.
Joseph COWAN, 40, coal miner, b FIF
Euphemia COWAN, 30, ------------b SCT [m/s WALKER]
*Robert COWAN, 15, coal miner, b FIF
**James COWAN, 13, coal miner, b FIF
Andrew COWAN, 8mos,------------b FIF
John WALKER, 12, -------------------b FIF [Euphemia's son?]
Isabella BEVERIDGE?, 20, coal drawer, b FIF
--
1851 census 424 Ed 9 p 14 (Dunfermline - Fife)
Wellwood Colliery.
Joseph COWAN, head, 49, coalminer, b Dalgety, FIF
Euphemia COWAN, wife, 47, miner's wife, b Haddington, ELN
Andrew COWAN, son, 10, scholar, b Dalgety, FIF
--
1861 census 422 Ed 1 p 12 (Dalgety - Fife)
Springhill.
Joseph COWAN, head, 59, coal miner, b Dalgety, FIF
Euphemia COWAN, wife, 58, -----------b Aberlady, Haddingtonshire
Andrew COWAN, son, 20, coal miner, b Dalgety, FIF
--
1867 DC - Euphemia COWAN (65) m/s WALKER d. 27 JUL 1867 at Dalgety.
(parents - Andrew WALKER, blacksmith & Euphemia WHITE)
1867 DC - Joseph COWAN (67) d. 6 AUG 1867 at Dalgety.
(parents - Robert COWAN, coal miner & Jane MUIR)
Informant on both of the 1867 DCs was son Andrew COWAN.
Joseph's DC doesn't mention his 1st wife Margaret RATTRAY.
Possibly son Andrew never knew of her?
====
Son Andrew COWAN (b. 30 Sep 1840) married Elizabeth FORD at Dunfermline 1863.
(parents Joseph COWAN & Euphemia m/s WALKER)
==================
We know the parents of,
*Robert COWAN (b~1826) were Joseph COWAN & ______ RATTRAY. [from Robert's DC]
I believe you have all his censuses to 1901.
--
And here's his brother **James; my apologies if you've got all this too.
**James COWAN (b-1829) was 1st married on 14 Jan 1850 Dunfermline to
Christian/Christina MORRIS.
~some children~
JOSEPH COWAN - Birth: About 10 MAR 1851 Dunfermline, Fife
AGNES COWAN - Birth: 16 DEC 1853 Dunfermline, Fife
CHRISTOPHER COWAN - Birth: 18 JUL 1855 Dunfermline, Fife [always a very useful year for BMDs]
MARGARET COWAN - Birth: 23 JUN 1857 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland
JAMES COWAN - Birth: 11 AUG 1860 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland
1851 census 424 Ed 9 p 13 (Dunfermline - Fife)
Wellwood Colliery.
**James COWAN, head, 22, coal miner, b Dalgety, FIF
Christian COWAN, wife, 20, miner's wife, b Dalgety, FIF
Joseph COWAN, son, 1mo, ------------------b Dalgety, FIF
1861 census 424-1 Ed 16 p 15 (Dunfermline Burgh)
Whitemire.
**James COWAN, head, 31, coal miner, b Dalgetty, FIF
Christian COWAN, wife, 29, coal miner, b Dunfermline, FIF
Joseph COWAN, son, 10, coal miner, b Dunfermline, FIF
Agnes COWAN, daur, 7, scholar, b Dunfermline, FIF
Christopher COWAN, son, 5, scholar, b Dunfermline, FIF
Margaret COWAN, daur, 3, scholar, b Dunfermline, FIF
James COWAN, son, 7mos, scholar, b Dunfermline, FIF
Agnes BURT?, mo-in-law, 60, house proprietor, b Dunfermline, FIF
[a confusing census on some occupations...eg coal miner wife & a 7 months old scholar...]
[this, like most others here, from Ancestry]
--
Christian Morris should've died 1861-1867, as James re-married as a widower in 1867.
And he's now given up the mines to become a spirit merchant.
1867 MC Calton, Glasgow. [RCE - Divorce]
**James COWAN (36) widower, spirit merchant of Kirkgate, Dunfermline.
parents - Joseph COWAN, mason j/man [sic] & Margaret m/s RATTRAY, deceased.
married 4 JUL 1867 at Glasgow to,
Helen WILLIAMSON (26) spinster, housekeeper of Sunnybank? Dunfermline.
parents - James WILLIAMSON, joiner j/man & Helen m/s McRORY.
Seems the marriage was rather short lived as there is no wife Helen from 1871 onwards....
--
1871 census 424-1 Ed 7 p 15 (Dunfermline Burgh)
St. Catherine's Wynd.
**James COWAN, head, marr, 41, spirit merchant, b Dalgety, FIF
Agnes COWAN, daur, 17, factory worker, b Dunfermline, FIF
Christopher COWAN, son, 15, baker, b Dunfermline, FIF
Margaret COWAN, daur, 13, domestic servant, b Dunfermline, FIF
James COWAN, son, 10, scholar, b Dunfermline, FIF
Agnes MORRIS, mo-in-law, widow, 72, housekeeper, b Dunfermline, FIF
--
1881 census 424 Ed 7 p 13 (Dunfermline)
Monastery St. "St Catherin'e Wynd"
**James COWAN, head, marr, 51, spirit merchant, b Dalgety, FIF
Agnes COWAN, daur, 27, genl servant domestic, b Dunfermline, FIF
Margt. COWAN, daur, 23, genl servant domestic, b Dunfermline, FIF
James COWAN, son, 20, clerk, b Dunfermline, FIF
--
1891 census 424 Ed 8 p 12 (Dunfermline)
St. Catherines Wynd.
**James COWAN, head, 61, spirit merchant, b Dalgety, FIF
James COWAN, son, 30, ----------------------b Dunfermline, FIF
Margt. COWAN, daur, 32, housekeeper, b Dunfermline, FIF
--
1896 DC Dunfermline.
**James COWAN (67) spirit merchant, d. 21 MAY 1896 at St Catherine's Wynd, Dunfermline.
(1) Widower - Christina MORRIS.
(2) Divorced - Helen WILLIAMSON.
parents - Joseph COWAN (dcd) coal miner & Margaret m/s RATTRAY (dcd)
Informant - Joseph COWAN, son.
====
ppps, much later; seems others on the Rootsweb Fife List also have an interest in your Cowan & Penman names....
Do a search in the archives for "Cowan AND Penman"
http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/SCT/SCT-FIFE.html
====
This from Ancestry; as CREVANI - haven't a clue what GROS & SP have it as!
Anyway, could this be Robert COWAN?
A look at the original page on the film roll may help.
Later - GROS has the name as COWAIN; i've now amended the census.
But i can sympathise with any transcriber on this one - it's not easy to be certain.
Cowan / Cowain - could be either.
--
1851 census 422 Ed 2, p 1, lines 1-4 (Dalgety - Fife)
West Square.
Robert COWAIN, head, 22, coal miner, b Dalgety, FIF
Elizabeth COWAIN, wife, 25, ------------b nk, MLN [just a birthplace error?]
Joseph COWAIN, son, 3, ----------------b Dalgety, FIF
Robert COWAIN, son, 1, ----------------b Dalgety, FIF
--
Jack
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ps - later again; this looks a fair possible for Robert COWAN in 1861.
Though he's dittoed as an ironstone miner, and not coal miner.
And perhaps it's just coincidence that he's boarding with a man of the same surname?
Can't see any obvious connection.
But Janet Cowan's 1855 BC says parents Robert Cowan & Elizabeth Penman married Shotts 1846.
--
1861 census 663. Ed 4 p 9 (Bo'ness - West Lothian)
South St.
John COWAN, head, marr, 40, ironstone miner, b Calder, LKS
Susan GIBB, wife, marr, 22, --------------------------b Bo'ness, Linlithgowshire
Grace COWAN, sister, 17, ----------------------------------b Shotts, LKS
Robert COWAN, boarder, marr, 33, ironstone miner, b Cairneyhill, FIF
Archibald THOMSON, boarder, 26, ironstone miner, b Cairneyhill, FIF
--
pps - and later yet...this concerns Robert's father Joseph COWAN.
I know you already have a lot of this, and perhaps it all? But in case not.
--
~1st marriage~
JOSEPH COWAN
MARGARET RATTRAY / RATTERY [seems to have died 1832-1837]
Marriage: 22 JAN 1825 Dalgety, Fife, Scotland
Marriage: 23 JAN 1825 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland
~some children~
*ROBERT COWAN - Birth abt 1827 Fife [various birthplaces on censuses etc]
**JAMES COWAN - Birth: 11 APR 1829 Dalgety, Fife
JOSEPH COWAN - Birth: 25 JAN 1832 Dalgety, Fife [presume died young?]
--
~2nd marriage~
JOSEPH COWAN
EUPHEMIA WALKER
Marriage: 24 AUG 1837 Saint Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Midlothian
Marriage: 25 AUG 1837 Aberdour, Fife, Scotland
~some children~
ANDW. WALKER COWAN - Birth: 30 SEP 1840 Dalgety, Fife, Scotland
WALTER COWAN - Birth: 01 MAR 1845; Chr: 06 APR 1845 Aberdour, Fife [presume died young?]
==
1841 census 405 (Auchterderran - Fife)
Dundonald Colliery.
Joseph COWAN, 40, coal miner, b FIF
Euphemia COWAN, 30, ------------b SCT [m/s WALKER]
*Robert COWAN, 15, coal miner, b FIF
**James COWAN, 13, coal miner, b FIF
Andrew COWAN, 8mos,------------b FIF
John WALKER, 12, -------------------b FIF [Euphemia's son?]
Isabella BEVERIDGE?, 20, coal drawer, b FIF
--
1851 census 424 Ed 9 p 14 (Dunfermline - Fife)
Wellwood Colliery.
Joseph COWAN, head, 49, coalminer, b Dalgety, FIF
Euphemia COWAN, wife, 47, miner's wife, b Haddington, ELN
Andrew COWAN, son, 10, scholar, b Dalgety, FIF
--
1861 census 422 Ed 1 p 12 (Dalgety - Fife)
Springhill.
Joseph COWAN, head, 59, coal miner, b Dalgety, FIF
Euphemia COWAN, wife, 58, -----------b Aberlady, Haddingtonshire
Andrew COWAN, son, 20, coal miner, b Dalgety, FIF
--
1867 DC - Euphemia COWAN (65) m/s WALKER d. 27 JUL 1867 at Dalgety.
(parents - Andrew WALKER, blacksmith & Euphemia WHITE)
1867 DC - Joseph COWAN (67) d. 6 AUG 1867 at Dalgety.
(parents - Robert COWAN, coal miner & Jane MUIR)
Informant on both of the 1867 DCs was son Andrew COWAN.
Joseph's DC doesn't mention his 1st wife Margaret RATTRAY.
Possibly son Andrew never knew of her?
====
Son Andrew COWAN (b. 30 Sep 1840) married Elizabeth FORD at Dunfermline 1863.
(parents Joseph COWAN & Euphemia m/s WALKER)
==================
We know the parents of,
*Robert COWAN (b~1826) were Joseph COWAN & ______ RATTRAY. [from Robert's DC]
I believe you have all his censuses to 1901.
--
And here's his brother **James; my apologies if you've got all this too.
**James COWAN (b-1829) was 1st married on 14 Jan 1850 Dunfermline to
Christian/Christina MORRIS.
~some children~
JOSEPH COWAN - Birth: About 10 MAR 1851 Dunfermline, Fife
AGNES COWAN - Birth: 16 DEC 1853 Dunfermline, Fife
CHRISTOPHER COWAN - Birth: 18 JUL 1855 Dunfermline, Fife [always a very useful year for BMDs]
MARGARET COWAN - Birth: 23 JUN 1857 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland
JAMES COWAN - Birth: 11 AUG 1860 Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland
1851 census 424 Ed 9 p 13 (Dunfermline - Fife)
Wellwood Colliery.
**James COWAN, head, 22, coal miner, b Dalgety, FIF
Christian COWAN, wife, 20, miner's wife, b Dalgety, FIF
Joseph COWAN, son, 1mo, ------------------b Dalgety, FIF
1861 census 424-1 Ed 16 p 15 (Dunfermline Burgh)
Whitemire.
**James COWAN, head, 31, coal miner, b Dalgetty, FIF
Christian COWAN, wife, 29, coal miner, b Dunfermline, FIF
Joseph COWAN, son, 10, coal miner, b Dunfermline, FIF
Agnes COWAN, daur, 7, scholar, b Dunfermline, FIF
Christopher COWAN, son, 5, scholar, b Dunfermline, FIF
Margaret COWAN, daur, 3, scholar, b Dunfermline, FIF
James COWAN, son, 7mos, scholar, b Dunfermline, FIF
Agnes BURT?, mo-in-law, 60, house proprietor, b Dunfermline, FIF
[a confusing census on some occupations...eg coal miner wife & a 7 months old scholar...]
[this, like most others here, from Ancestry]
--
Christian Morris should've died 1861-1867, as James re-married as a widower in 1867.
And he's now given up the mines to become a spirit merchant.
1867 MC Calton, Glasgow. [RCE - Divorce]
**James COWAN (36) widower, spirit merchant of Kirkgate, Dunfermline.
parents - Joseph COWAN, mason j/man [sic] & Margaret m/s RATTRAY, deceased.
married 4 JUL 1867 at Glasgow to,
Helen WILLIAMSON (26) spinster, housekeeper of Sunnybank? Dunfermline.
parents - James WILLIAMSON, joiner j/man & Helen m/s McRORY.
Seems the marriage was rather short lived as there is no wife Helen from 1871 onwards....
--
1871 census 424-1 Ed 7 p 15 (Dunfermline Burgh)
St. Catherine's Wynd.
**James COWAN, head, marr, 41, spirit merchant, b Dalgety, FIF
Agnes COWAN, daur, 17, factory worker, b Dunfermline, FIF
Christopher COWAN, son, 15, baker, b Dunfermline, FIF
Margaret COWAN, daur, 13, domestic servant, b Dunfermline, FIF
James COWAN, son, 10, scholar, b Dunfermline, FIF
Agnes MORRIS, mo-in-law, widow, 72, housekeeper, b Dunfermline, FIF
--
1881 census 424 Ed 7 p 13 (Dunfermline)
Monastery St. "St Catherin'e Wynd"
**James COWAN, head, marr, 51, spirit merchant, b Dalgety, FIF
Agnes COWAN, daur, 27, genl servant domestic, b Dunfermline, FIF
Margt. COWAN, daur, 23, genl servant domestic, b Dunfermline, FIF
James COWAN, son, 20, clerk, b Dunfermline, FIF
--
1891 census 424 Ed 8 p 12 (Dunfermline)
St. Catherines Wynd.
**James COWAN, head, 61, spirit merchant, b Dalgety, FIF
James COWAN, son, 30, ----------------------b Dunfermline, FIF
Margt. COWAN, daur, 32, housekeeper, b Dunfermline, FIF
--
1896 DC Dunfermline.
**James COWAN (67) spirit merchant, d. 21 MAY 1896 at St Catherine's Wynd, Dunfermline.
(1) Widower - Christina MORRIS.
(2) Divorced - Helen WILLIAMSON.
parents - Joseph COWAN (dcd) coal miner & Margaret m/s RATTRAY (dcd)
Informant - Joseph COWAN, son.
====
ppps, much later; seems others on the Rootsweb Fife List also have an interest in your Cowan & Penman names....
Do a search in the archives for "Cowan AND Penman"
http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/SCT/SCT-FIFE.html
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