KENNET(H) Dundonald area abt 1750's.....

[rafman51]

I went to Dundonald Church graveyard, and found many stones unreadable.

The Only one that I found was on a wall and related to Julia Crawford and Frances Crawfurd and said:

In loving memory of Julia Crawfurd Daughter of Robert Crawfurd Esq of that ilk of Newfield she departed this life 28 Oct 1897 “his own most gracious smile shall welcome you above“. In loving memory of Frances Crawfurd born at Newfield 1814 died 22 Jan 1901 at Victoria British Columbia.

I have attributed the Julia Crawfurd above to Julia Crawfurd (born about 1824) as the Robert Crawfurd above resided at Newfield, which his son did not.
The Frances Crawfurd above I have attributed to Frances Crawfurd (same father as Julia) born about 1814 and had emigrated with her niece Frances Ann Crawfurd (born 1865) and her husband Edward Charles Bentinck Bagshawe to Canada.

I hope that this helps. If I can help with any other research in Ayrshire - please email me rafman51ATmsn.com

Regards

Simon Tyas

[Peter Cowley]

Greetings Simon, Kate, Raymond, Alan, et al

It's been a while. I hope you all are well.

Simon: I believe the info in your last post regarding "Julia" (Jan 27th) to be entirely correct.

AND....... just this afternoon, I received interesting news from a woman in Manitoba who quotes from a little book on the history of Arrow River and Maniota, Manitoba to the effect that, "a sister of Mrs. Bagshawe's married a Mr. Blandy." This can only be Julia Letitia May Violet (daughter of Robert (2) and sister to Galfridus Reginald, Robert (3) and Frances Ann) of whom we lost track after she appeared in the 1891 Canada census living with the Bagshawe family and Aunt Fanny--Frances Crawfurd (daughter of Robert (1) and Frances O'Brien).

So now that I have a married name for Julia, I might be able to fill in some blank spaces in the tree on Geni.com!

It's great fun when--possibly--a puzzle piece is found.

Best regards to all!

Peter

[Raymond Crawfurd]

Dear Peter,Alan, Simon, Kate and all,
A tiny geeky bit of the jigsaw and a question. I found a book called "Roll of the Indian Medical Service 1615-1930" by Lt-Col. D G Crawford, pub 1930 by W Thacker &Co London. There are a number of Crawford doctors recorded and the two most interesting are Major Moses Crawfurd, father of Colonel Robert of Newfield, and his son Peter (who so far hasn't appeared in the story).
Moses was born in 1745, became Assistant Surgeon in India in 1764, and was promoted to Major on Jan 27th 1781. He resigned Oct 14th 1782, retired to Scotland and died at Newfield on March 3rd 1794. Apparently there is an article about him in the Scots Magazine 1794, page 178, but I haven't looked at it yet. There is also a reference to the History of the Indian Medical Service vol i, p.242. There is no mention of a wife, but he is recorded as father of Peter Crawfurd
Peter Crawfurd was born Sept 12th 1789. MD Edinburgh 1811, MRCS 1811, Assistant Surgeon July 28th 1811. Son of Moses Crawford. Died at Madras June 9th 1821. The entry goes on to say that he spelt his name Crawfurd in his signature, although he was entered as Crawford in the Service Army Lists, Medical, Madras. I think as the author was a Crawford he would have been particularly aware of the different spelling.
The question is this: we have a brother of Colonel Robert named as Patrick who, according to IGI was christened at Dundonald on Sept 26th 1791 and who, according to Burke's Commoners,was a MD who died in India. I think Patrick & Peter must be the same person and it wouldn't be the first time that a Patrick Crawfurd called himself Peter.
Judy has dug out some old photos of Newfield which she is sending me. Is there a way of sharing them on this site? We are still waitingto hear back from Tim about the American connection. Yours Raymond

[SandySandilands]

Hi Raymond

I have also come across the Patrick/Peter phenomenon whilst researching my own family - took me a while to work out that they were the same person!

The same with:

John/Hugh
John/George
John/Adam
Jane/Mary
Jane/Ann
Daniel/Nathaniel

Confusing to say the least.

Sandy

[AndrewP]

Is there a way of sharing them on this site?

You can upload your photos to a photo hosting site such as Photobucket. The link(s) obtained on Photobucket can be inserted into your message here to either display the photo(s) here or a link to Photobucket to view the photo(s) there.

All the best,

AndrewP

[Currie]

Hello Raymond,

There’s not much in The Scots Magazine, 1794, p.178, just a short notice middle of second column. http://books.google.com.au/books?id=Kis ... J&pg=PA178

I was having a ferret through the Times of India and came across an item for the young Lieutenant Archibald Crawfurd who was previously mentioned a couple of pages back in this thread.

The Times of India, 31 July, 1852.
The unfortunate young gentleman named Archibald Crawford who was a few weeks back allowed to resign his commission as Lieutenant in the Bombay Artillery, was, we regret to hear, accidentally drowned on the morning of the 29th inst. at Dewallia. He had embarked for Bombay the previous night in the steamer Lady Falkland. About three o’clock the following morning he was heard to fall overboard; boats were immediately lowered to render him assistance, but he was never more seen. The steamer was at anchor, but the weather was very stormy at the time, and the sea running high, and the poor gentleman must have been carried away by the current the moment he fell into the water. Every search has been made along the shore for the body, but up to yesterday we believe unsuccessfully.

All the best,
Alan

LATER
Here’s something interesting. I wonder if he’s still waiting for another reply after all this time.
http://listsearches.rootsweb.ancestry.c ... 0982157252

Alan

[Currie]

The storming of the Fortress of Punalla as mentioned in the rootsweb link above is described in the United Service Magazine, 1845, middle of page 470. http://books.google.com.au/books?id=__8 ... J&pg=PA470

“At Maj. Conway's post there were two 6-pounder guns under Lieut. Crawford, Bombay Artillery, very judiciously placed, and which had occasionally thrown spherical-case shot with excellent effect over the enemy's parapets. These two guns I directed at once to be brought into a forward position, which I had reconnoitred in the morning with Maj. Conway, and to be loaded with grape; my wishes were most ably and instantly seconded and attended to by Lieut. Crawford.”

Alan

[Raymond Crawfurd]

Dear Alan & Andrew,
Many thanks. I will see if I can use Photobucket. It seems that poor Archibald's drinking habits got the better of him in the end. CLever of you to find the references and thanks for finding the Scots Magazine article -that's most useful. Yours Raymond

[Raymond Crawfurd]

Dear All,
I have had two strokes of luck! First, a cousin of mine has found a memorial album which contains the letters from my g-g-uncle Robert Henry Payne Crawfurd (1822-1855) and a number of letters and papers relating to him. He was a Captain in the 90th Light Infantry and went with the British Army to the Crimean War where he died of typhoid fever in the hospital at Scutari. He is buried in the British Cemetry there.
Before he left he had a romantic relationship, possibly an engagement, with a young woman who was none other than Julia Crawfurd of Newfield. We are in the process of scanning the papers so I will give you more detail soon. There is a letter from Fanny from Canada, references to Galfridus and other details that it make it clear that this is the person who was involved. Raymond

[Currie]

That’s a very nice find Raymond, and thanks for the update. They are a most interesting family.

Lieutenant R. H. Payne Crawfurd was presented to Queen Victoria in 1851 by a Major-General Sir Frederick Stovin at a Levee at St. James’s Palace.

All the best,
Alan