Valentine George born St Vigeans, Forfashire abt 1870

[khensworth]

Trying to trace more info on this family - wife Margaret born Letham - one of their daughters Susan Alexandra (my grandmother) born Arbroath - can anyone help? thanks

[LesleyB]

Hi Kay
From the info you have given, I'm not seeing any obvious signs of the people you mention on ScotlandsPeople. Can you maybe tell us where you have searched already and where your info is from? Are you working from what a family member has said or have you already found some documentation?
Do you know roughly when your grandmother was born? Do you know if your grandmother died in Scotland?

I'm maybe being dense here, but is your gr grandfather's first name Valentine, or have you given the surname first, so his first name is George? The reason I ask is that there is no sign at all of a "Valentine George", but George Valentine throws up a few hits, including a birth in 1869 at St Vigneans, Angus on SP www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

Best wishes
Lesley

p.s. the bith woudl give you his parent's names, though it may be better to try to find the death or marriage first and work backwards. Have you found the family on any census?

[LesleyB]

Also on Scotlands People there is a marriage in Angus in 1887 of a George Valentine and a Margaret, so as the timing seems a possibility that one might be worth a look, though it may not be the correct marriage as we don't yet know Margaret's surname.

[deano]

Hello Kay,

It looks to me that George Valentine's, wife is Margaret Duncan, born 29/June/1840, Christened the 26/July/1840, at Dunnichen, Angus, to parents, Andrew Duncan, and Christian Anderson, who were married 08/July/1831. Watten, Caithness, Scotland.

As George Valentine, and Margaret Duncan, had a son Andrew, and a daughter Christina, this looks likely to be your people.

The only way to be certain is to get the marriage certificate of George Valentine, and Margaret Duncan, 1864, Brechin, Angus, from Scotlandspeople Site, which should give the parents names of George, and Margaret.

Regards,
Jonn.

[LesleyB]

Hi Deano
It must be too early in the morning for me....

The only way to be certain is to get the marriage certificate of George Valentine, and Margaret Duncan, 1864, Brechin, Angus, from Scotlandspeople Site, which should give the parents names of George, and Margaret.

I thought the George were looking for, who married a Margaret was not born until abt 1870. Have I got the wrong end of the stick somewhere?

Best wishes
Lesley

[deano]

Hello Lelsey,

I am going by Kay's, posts regarding her Grandmother, Susan Valentine, born 1879 Arbroath, also the census of 1881. 4 Hope Street, Arbroath.

The son George Valentine, born about 1869. Arbroath, who is in the 1881. census along with Susan, and her parents George Valentine, and Margaret Duncan, is most likely the person you are talking about, although Currie, has mentioned in another post that he seems to be born to parents John Valentine, and Margaret Duncan.

Regards,
Jonn.

[LesleyB]

Ah...
I wondered where you had the extra info from...think I'll go and have a coffee

Best wishes
Lesley

[caljam371]

Found this at -

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/t ... 0937812332

From: "Bob Duncan" <bob@agrussell.co.uk>
Subject: Western Cemetery, Arbroath
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 08:25:32 +0100

...........

Immediately to the left of the above is another obelisk in
sandstone with an artist's palette and several brushes, 12 feet
tall. On the base is : George Duncan/painter/died 25th May 1872
aged 35 years/Erected by/a few relations and friends/in
appreciation of his qualities as a man/and admiration of his
genius/as an artist. On the left face is : Isabella Duncan/died
21st October 1872/aged 40 years. On the right hand face is : Here
also is interred the remains/ of George Valentine brother-in-law
of/George and Isabella Duncan/who died 13th April 1898 aged 75
years/and Margaret Duncan his wife/died 29th October 1908 aged
68 years.

............

I've been watching this with interest as I have a Margaret Duncan in my tree from that area.