william mckenzie 1851 census

mossiepossie · Post by **mossiepossie** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 4:16 pm

william mckenzie and catherine matheson were married 27/01/1825 in lochbroom ross & cromarty they are on the 1841 census in lochbroom ross & cromarty address ullapool occ. fisher parish no. 75. i'm sure this is the family i'm looking for but i can't find them after that. can anyone help?

LesleyB · Post by **LesleyB** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:18 pm

Hi Mossiepossie
Can you maybe tell us where you have searched for them already?

Have you birth dates and places for any children? The ones I'm seeing on IGI suggest that they may have moved around a bit: Applecross, Lochcarron...and is the one in 1839 in Inverness belonging to them? (it may be another couple, as may the kids born 1820 & 25 to a couple with the same names...)

Often searching for the children in a census rather than the parents can be a good tactic. Ages given for children are usually a bit more accurate. HAve you treid this?

Have you a death for Catherine Matheson / McKenzie? If so, was she still in Lochbroom area at that time?
Helps us to know what gound someone has already covered...

Best wishes
Lesley

LesleyB · Post by **LesleyB** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:31 pm

Ah ha..there are several couples with the same name combination it seems from the marriages on IGI:

1. WILLIAM MCKENZIE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Marriage: 27 JAN 1825 Lochbroom, Ross And Cromarty, Scotland

2. WILLIAM MCKENZIE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Marriage: 26 NOV 1831 Lochcarron, Ross And Cromarty, Scotland

3. WILLIAM MACKENZIE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Marriage: 09 APR 1819 Applecross, Ross And Cromarty, Scotland

4. WILLIAM MCKENZIE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Marriage: 14 MAR 1834 Kilmorack, Inverness, Scotland

So I think we can probably discount the Applecross, Lochcarron & Inverness children as it seems more likely they belong to these other couples.

Post by **AnneM** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:51 pm

In 1851, could they be at Shore Street in Ullapool, with daughters Flora 19 and Rachel 10, both William and Catherine born in Lochbroom. If so Ancestry has their surname transcribed as Mkenzie. (Obviously from the African branch of the family) It may be that the index on SP is also not very good.
My only reason for wondering if it is them is that Catherine's age is given as 40 which is a bit young to be married in 1825.

Anne

PS Catherine is given as Cathrine.

mossiepossie · Post by **mossiepossie** » Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:32 pm

Hi Everybody, I'll give you as much info as I can. William McKenzie and Catherine Matheson Married on the 27/01/1825 Lochbroom and I think this is them on the 1841 census

William father age 35 born about 1806 Ross & Cromarty
Catherine mother age 30 born about 1811 Ross & Cromarty
address on the census is Ullapool parish number 75
children are
Isabella age 1 birth about 1840
John age 3 birth about 1838
Hector age 5 born about 1836
Flora age 7 born about 1834
Murdock age 10 born about 1831
Duncan age 14 born about 1827
There is no specific area for their births it just says Ross & Cromarty and all live at Ullapool Lochbroom . I haven't checked for a death yet i'll look when I come back in and i'll get back to you

caljam371 · Post by **caljam371** » Wed Jul 02, 2008 6:30 pm

Do you have any other info on Catherine Matheson? Long shot I know but I have Matheson's from Urquhart & Logie Wester, Ross and Cromarty.

mossiepossie · Post by **mossiepossie** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 2:44 pm

Hi Lesley,and Caljam, Lesley, I went on to the deaths for Catherine McKenzie/Matheson on SP there was nothing with her maiden name and of the ones where that was blank there was about 4 but nothing on them that could indicate that it was her and Caljam all the info I have on Catherine is in my original post. William and Catherines son Duncan is the branch I am from. Is there anything else I can try to find them after 1841 they all seemed to have disappeared ? regards Pat.

LesleyB · Post by **LesleyB** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 4:48 pm

Hi Mossiepossie

I went on to the deaths for Catherine McKenzie/Matheson on SP there was nothing with her maiden name

As search for a death for a *ath*rin* m*kenzie/math*son born around 1815 +/- 10years (so anywhere between 1805 - 1825) brings up 6 matches. Narrowing it down a bit to between 1805 -1815, there are three matches. One of those is in Ross and Cromarty - seems to be on Uig though. No guarantee that any of them are the one you are looking for... we also need to consider that she may have died before 1855.

Best wishes
Lesley

Post by **AnneM** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 5:49 pm

Hi Pat

Is there a reason why you have discounted the family in Shore Street, Ullapool in 1851.

It comprises

William McKenzie Head Marr 50 Fisherman Ross & C Lochbroom
Catharin McKenzie Wife Marr 40 Fisher's Wife "
Flora do Daur U 19 Fisher's Daur "
Rachel do Daur 10 " "

I can't see a marriage in Lochbroom for either of these girls which is unfortunate.

Anne

Post by **AnneM** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 5:53 pm

The above family is still in Shore Street in 1861 and includes a daughter Mary aged 19 who is a domestic servant. Are you sure its not them?

Anne