Hutchison/Main family

LizzieS · Post by **LizzieS** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 6:29 pm

Hi,
I've hit another brick wall and wondered if anyone can help.
I'm trying to trace the parents of Janet Hutchison/Hutcheson (various spellings) who married John Main 10.01.1847 in Old Monkland.
At their marriage John is given as Blacksmith of Dundyvan and Janet of New Dundyvan. I went down completely the wrong track with George Hutcheson and Ellison McKean.
I can't find Janets death which might give a clue to her parents but John died 1857 and their daughter Elizabeth Gibson Hutchison Main, age 9, and son George Main, age 7, appear to be living with their grandfather in 1861 which perhaps indicates their mother had also died by this time.
I wondered if the daughters rather lengthy name might give some help but so far no luck.
Lizzie

LesleyB · Post by **LesleyB** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 7:04 pm

Hi Lizzie

but John died 1857

Who was the death informant for John? As far as I remember, between 1856-60, you'll not see "widower of" or "spouse of" after the name of the deceased, so probably no clues there.

Best wishes
Lesley

LizzieS · Post by **LizzieS** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 8:34 pm

Hi Lesley,

Yes the death registration just states that he was married so that doesn't help much though I guess it may mean that she was still alive at this point in time. The informant was George Saunders (I think thats what it says) brother-in-law. It also states he was buried in Gartsherrie Churchyard. This is now St Andrews and I have searched their for a headstone but no luck.
Lizzie

JustJean · Post by **JustJean** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 8:56 pm

Have you tried doing any chasing down of Hutchisons by location? I mean the 1851 census shows Janet (Jenatt) as born...and I quote.... "Where born: Fyfe Muir, Cuper" and also there being a visitor in the household born Fyfe Muir, Stirling I can't help but wonder if this has been explored.....

George Saunders (Sanders) was married to John's sister Christina.

Best wishes
Jean

LesleyB · Post by **LesleyB** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 9:29 pm

Hi Lizzie

Yes the death registration just states that he was married so that doesn't help much though I guess it may mean that she was still alive at this point in time.

Yes, that does suggest that she is still alive at that point.

Best wishes
Lesley

LesleyB · Post by **LesleyB** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 9:30 pm

Hi Jean

Fyfe Muir, Cuper

My guess as to that one would be Cupar Muir, Fife...small village just to the south west of Cupar, Fife. Not sure how that ties up with the mention of Stirling, though!

Best wishes
Lesley

LizzieS · Post by **LizzieS** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 4:49 pm

Hi,
I found that 1851 Census record in Ancestry giving stangely Fyfe Muir in Cuper and in Stirling. I would guess there has been a transcription error (not unusual in Ancestry!) as John's surname is given as Mane and his wife as Main. Tried to find it on SP but its one of those that has no image so no help there.
It does see likely that they are the right people but although the grandson George in 1861 is given as being 7, I have found a George Main born to Janet Hutchison and John Main in 1850 so he should have been recorded on 1851 Census?
I still haven't found Janets birth even with this clue or her death but thanks for the help so far.
Lizzie

JustJean · Post by **JustJean** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 12:53 am

I wondered too at the lack of any children on the 1851 census if they had been married since 1847. Perhaps George born in 1850 didn't survive to the 1851 census and the one shown as age 7 was a second George. Just a guess.......

I too looked for the corresponding entry on SP and found the dreaded "NO IMAGE" message. This is likely another one of those victims of the blue ink/blue paper scourge. I wonder if you made out a contact form and threw yourself on the mercy of GROS [-o< if they'd take an in person peek at the original register book and tell you what they think the entry says.

...... Of course you could always just order in the correct census microfilm for 1851 census image at your nearest Family History Library and take a peek at that copy yourself.

Best wishes
Jean

LizzieS · Post by **LizzieS** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 6:44 pm

Hi Jean,

Yes good thinking but unfortunately I have been unable to find another George.
There was a previous Elizabeth Gibson Main b 20.08.1848 which gives children born 1848,50 and 51 then no more.
Perhaps, although it says on John's death "married" Janet was actually deceased which I guess means I am unlikely to find her parents though, as she called both her daughters Elizabeth Gibson this might be her mothers name do you think?
Through IGI I found an Elizabeth Gibson m Robert Hutchison about 1816 and she looks to have been born Muirkirk

though this time its Ayr

Though I can't find this on SP.

Wonder what happened to George Saunders and Christina as their son Thomas was also with Grandfather Main in 1861.

I'm going to the Mitchell next week so may be able to unravel something there

Regards
Lizzie

JustJean · Post by **JustJean** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 7:03 pm

IGI has these births to George and Christina so maybe Thomas was visiting the grandparents....

1. CATHERINE SAUNDERS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 12 NOV 1863 Old Monkland, Lanark, Scotland

2. CHRISTINA BELL SAUNDERS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 30 MAY 1857 Old Monkland, Lanark, Scotland

3. GEORGE MAIN SAUNDERS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 30 AUG 1861 Old Monkland, Lanark, Scotland

4. MARY SAUNDERS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 02 JAN 1868 Old Monkland, Lanark, Scotland

5. THOMAS SAUNDERS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 01 JUL 1859 Old Monkland, Lanark, Scotland

6. MARGARET MAIN SAUNDERS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 02 JAN 1866 Old Monkland, Lanark, Scotland

And yes I would agree that Elizabeth Gibson probably holds some significant clue to all this but it would be very premature to say she was Janet's mum.

Best wishes
Jean