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Justjan
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this is a pain on the rear end

Post by Justjan » Tue Mar 24, 2009 12:25 pm

i have tired to get this Duncan ( ssshhh) Stewarts parents , some of the census say Leadhills is the place he was born , pheww there are millions of them ,
he married a Mary /Marion Stewart , grrrrrr, i think her Mum was a Hyslop /Hislop , as thats in the middle of their Daughters name , i am trying to find out if Duncan had siblings , but i cant narrow it down to a single one person, on a census , i found a Christina Mckie down as a neice , so i assume one of them has siblings , just not sure what one , so gues you could say ,i am up the swanney yet again , not sure why my Family are attracted to people with the surnames , its made this extra hard , thought it might be fun , boy was i wrong

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Piece: SCT1841/622 Place: Barony -Lanarkshire Enumeration District: 19
Civil Parish: Barony Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Martyrs
Folio: 232 Page: 3
Address: Castle Street



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Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
STEWART Duncan M 40 Journeyman Boiler Maker Lanarkshire
STEWART Marion F 35 Outside Census County (1841)
STEWART Isabilla F 12 Lanarkshire
STEWART Duncan M 4 Lanarkshire
PURVEY John M 20 Journeyman Boiler Maker Lanarkshire
MURPHY Elizabeth F 20 Cotton Power Loom Weaver Ireland
HANIGAN Agnes F 20 Cotton Power Loom Weaver Ireland
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Andy
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Another sister?

Post by Andy » Tue Mar 24, 2009 2:19 pm

Mary Stewart
Female

Birth: MAY 1840 Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland

Christening:
Death:
Burial:

Parents:
Father: Duncan Stewart
Mother: Mary Stewart
Searching for Keogh, Kelly, Fitzgerald, Riddell, Stewart, Wilson, McQuilkin, Lynch, Boyle, Cairney, Ross, King, McIlravey, McCurdy, Drennan and Woods (to name but a few).

Also looking for any information on Rathlin Island, County Antrim, Ireland.

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And there's this

Post by Andy » Tue Mar 24, 2009 2:44 pm

DUNCAN STEWART
Male Family

Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
Burial:

Marriages:
Spouse: MARY STEWART
Marriage: 27 DEC 1825 Kilmory, Bute, Scotland

Backed up a bit by the 1851 census

Duncan Stewart 54 Boiler Maker born Lanark Leadhills
Marion Wife 52 born Argyll
Duncan Son 13 born Glasgow
Christina McKie niece 26 born Argyll
Searching for Keogh, Kelly, Fitzgerald, Riddell, Stewart, Wilson, McQuilkin, Lynch, Boyle, Cairney, Ross, King, McIlravey, McCurdy, Drennan and Woods (to name but a few).

Also looking for any information on Rathlin Island, County Antrim, Ireland.

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Post by nelmit » Tue Mar 24, 2009 3:27 pm

Jan,

Hopefully you should get the names of Duncan's parents from his death entry which shouldn't be too hard to find. There are only 3 with a +/- 3 years of 1796 in Lanarkshire between 1861 and 1871. Was he still alive when Isabella married in 1867?

Regards,
Annette

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Post by SarahND » Tue Mar 24, 2009 3:37 pm

Hi,
Given that Marrion and Christina McKie were both born in Argylleshire in the 1851 census (and probably the same place, although Ancestry is having trouble with it!) and Duncan in Lanarkshire, I would guess that Christina is Marrion's niece, not Duncan's.

In 1861 this looks like Duncan, still in Glasgow St Paul, with his daughter Isabella

1861
9 Dean Street, Glasgow St Paul Lanarkshire
Duncan Stewart, 65, Head, born Crawford, Lanarkshire, Blacksmith
Isabella H Stewart, 30
Elizabeth Hawthorn, 27

Leadhills is in Biggar District, I believe, as is Crawford. There is no Duncan born there in the IGI online, but there are suspiciously only girls listed at that locality. However, there are a number of girls born in Crawford to John Stewart and Isabel Hislop:

Margret 1798
Cathrine 1800
Janet 1802

Since you know there is a Hislop in the family somewhere, this looks likely.

The first step, as Annette said, is to find his death cert and verify his parents' names.

There are only a couple of choices and he is not to be found in 1871.

Regards,
Sarah

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Post by Andy » Tue Mar 24, 2009 3:44 pm

Where did you get Isabella's marriage in 1867?
Searching for Keogh, Kelly, Fitzgerald, Riddell, Stewart, Wilson, McQuilkin, Lynch, Boyle, Cairney, Ross, King, McIlravey, McCurdy, Drennan and Woods (to name but a few).

Also looking for any information on Rathlin Island, County Antrim, Ireland.

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Post by nelmit » Tue Mar 24, 2009 3:47 pm

Andy wrote:Where did you get Isabella's marriage in 1867?
From Jan's previous posts. :lol: I've got to know the family quite well.

Regards,
Annette

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Post by nelmit » Tue Mar 24, 2009 4:05 pm

I'm scared to suggest this (especially considering the surname) but I wonder if Marion is Duncan's 2nd wife.

There is this marriage in 1835.

DUNCAN STEWART

Marriages:
Spouse: MARION CAMERON :lol: (sorry Jan)

28 AUG 1835 Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland

Regards,
Annette

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Post by Justjan » Tue Mar 24, 2009 4:24 pm

phew sorry , had to go out , i have a marriage for a Duncan and Mary for 1825 , Kilmory , Shiskine, Lochranza ,
i dont have a lot on them as when i was having a PC problem sorted , the guy came a day too early , had my external plugged in , and he wiped it :oops: , so the few i had in sent mail for my brother is all i have , i lost Isabellas marriage cert , i do remember when Duncan died she signed it ,
when i tried for siblings before for Duncan i only got 3 females as well ,
but hadnt got into looking for them ,
i found a John McKay who married a Eliz Sutherland and had a Daughter Christina in 1825 ,
but trying to get these ones from Leadhills done first ,as i want to try catch up with where i was , and print them off before i lose them this time
:oops:
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Post by Justjan » Tue Mar 24, 2009 4:26 pm

thanks everyone , i did have Duncans death cert , think i will write to SP and ask what name i used , as i forgot my user name and used another but same email addy , i might still be able to get the things off that ,
that just come to me , will give it a bash
JustJan