Can anyone help?

[Malexand]

Hi all

Am a newbie at talking Scot and was wondering if anyone out there has any information on a James McGregor born abt 1801 in Comrie Perthshire. He married Catherine McLaren on 19/12/1821 in Comrie. They had 3 daughters Christian born 1822, Janet b 1824 and Catherine b 1830 (there could be more children?).

Thanks

[LesleyB]

Hi Malexand

And welcome to Talking Scot

Have you seen the family in any census? That might give you the names and approx. years of birth of any other children, and should also give a bit more information about the family. e.g. if James and Catherine are still around in 1851, thier places of birth and thier ages will be mentioned, and that may help you find thier births and move another generation back.

Best wishes
Lesley

[nelmit]

Hi all

Am a newbie at talking Scot and was wondering if anyone out there has any information on a James McGregor born abt 1801 in Comrie Perthshire. He married Catherine McLaren on 19/12/1821 in Comrie. They had 3 daughters Christian born 1822, Janet b 1824 and Catherine b 1830 (there could be more children?).

Thanks

Hello and welcome to Talking Scot.

Have you pinpointed him on census records?

There is one James McGregor born 1801 at Comrie who appears with a Catherine born Comrie around 1813. He is still alive in 1881 at Comrie age 81 but it looks as though Catherine died between 1871 - 1881.

There is also a death indexed at Scotlands People at Comrie in 1882 of a James McGregor born about 1801. Only a look at the record will hopefully tell you if he is the widower of Catherine McLaren.

Regards,
Annette

[Malexand]

Hi Annette

Thanks for your reply. I have searched on SP for Jame's death in 1882 Comrie and the only result I got was of another James listed as being from Argyle. What search criteria did you use to get the Comrie result?

Thanks also to Lesley for your comments.

[nelmit]

Hi Annette

Thanks for your reply. I have searched on SP for Jame's death in 1882 Comrie and the only result I got was of another James listed as being from Argyle. What search criteria did you use to get the Comrie result?

Thanks also to Lesley for your comments.

I am so sorry I don't know what I did this morning but I've just searched again and sure enough you're right!

I am afraid there is more than one option if he died outside Comrie which looks likely.

There is somebody at Ancestry who has an interest in this family - have you seen that?

Apologies,
Annette

[Malexand]

Hi again Annette, no apologies necessary, I'm greatful for any assistance that can help find or eliminate possible matches. I'm finding it can get rather complicated with so many people with the same names The census's that I attached to their records all listed a James McGregor and Catherine McGregor in the same household. This Catherine was born in 1813, I thought he might have taken a much younger bride!! but the certificate of marriage I have since found on SP has them married in 1821, so it couldn't have been that Catherine, she is listed as being his sister in two and one as his servant!!!! maybe that was their sense of humour when filling in the census form???? I discounted them when I found out that my James was listed as being dead when his daughters married and so was Catherine. I haven't seen anyone on Ancestry.com.au research this family. Are you in the UK? I am in Sydney Australia. I was born in Stirling and lived in the Clackmannanshire area until my family emigrated in the late 60's.

Regards
Mary

[Lorna Allison]

Hi Malexand

I have a copy of the MIs at Comrie Churchyard up to 1855 only. There are some McGregors and many more Mclarens. One Mclaren that might be of interest is:

"Cath McLaren d Garrichrew 11.6.1818 37, by Peter McL. her ... (bd)"

Above is an exact copy of the entry as noted by the transcribers. Could this be your Catherine's mother?

I am presuming your Catherine's siblings would be born early 1800's

Next entry to that Catherine Mclaren is a James McLaren who died 30.5.1886 aged 82 and there is a note of his wife and children.

Interesting again is the entry "Peter McLaren, Gardiner Dunira, w Margt. Comrie (14).6.1851 43" - this Peter being born about 1808 and working at Dunira which is within spitting distance of Garrichrew. I am not sure about the size and boundaries of Dunira estate back then but nowadays, following destruction by fire of Dunira House about 1947, the 'big hoose' is "Whitehouse of Dunira" and as far as I can ascertain this is Garrichrew renamed.

I am hoping some of this info might give you something else to go on. If you want any foot-slogging done just ask as I am local (VERY). I'll send you a copy of the MIs for Comrie if that would be a help.

Regards

Lorna

[Andy]

Hi Lorna,

Sorry to sidetrack this thread but what Roxburgh Middlemas families are you researching?

[nelmit]

Have you considered this family at Ross, Comrie in 1841?

James Mcgregor 50 Labourer
Kathrine Mcgregor 45
Christian Mcgregor 20
Janet Mcgregor 15
Kathrine Mcgregor 13
Duncan Mcgregor 10
N K 5 months

Unfortunately there are no relationships given but I tried to follow Duncan through the census years and found somebody who has a marriage entry at Ancestry of a Duncan McGregor born about 1833 and married Christian Robertson in 1859. He gives his parents as James McGregor, Labourer and Catherine McLaren. The bad news is that both his parents were dead when he married. http://trees.ancestry.co.uk/tree/199685 ... src=search

Another person has Christian (Gow) and Catherine's (Brown) death entries showing parents James McGregor and Catherine McLaren. http://trees.ancestry.co.uk/tree/192985 ... 1032694793

Regards,
Annette

[Lorna Allison]

Hello Mary

Thanks for PM, will reply shortly. Sorry to bamboozle you, MIs are memorial inscriptions.

Hello Andy

My Middlemas' stem from John Middlemast b. Jedburgh abt. 1780 d. 1858 East Nisbet, m. Janet Scott had 8 children (various spellings of Middlemas) - my line is from Adam who married Agnes Riddell. The present day families live East Lothian, Jedburgh, Selkirk, Crailing. If you see a poss. link feel free to PM.

Regards

Lorna