My GGGrandfather, John Anderson b. 1814 Glasgow d. 1890 Paris, France.
I am travelling to the UK at the end of April, and would love to have more information on John’s whereabouts in Glasgow, where he was educated etc.
Also, of course, any information on his siblings would be wonderful.
I will copy an edited excerpt from a book called Epidemics of Mauritius, by Danie Elie Anderson (son of said John), so you know I do have a lot of information on future generations, but very little on the past.
" As I am writing about schools and colleges, I ought to add the name of a family who have done much for the secular and religious education of the Island. My father, Mr John Anderson of Glasgow, a grandnephew of the late Sir William Honeyman, Bart., Lord Chief Justice of Scotland, was sent by the Mico Trust to Mauritius to be the Principal of the Normal School. This trust or charity was founded by Lady Mico for the education of the newly liberated slaves of the British Colonies.
Mr Anderson was a lay preacher all the adult days of his life , and his sermons have been heard in many lands besides Mauritius viz. the Cape of Good Hope, Australia, Seychelles, England, Scotland, Ireland, France and Italy. He was one of the elders of the Presbyterian Church, and was the principal mover in getting a church erected for the Scottish colonists in Mauritius.
He married Miss Elie, a granddaughter of the Huguenot* families Elie and Bourelly of Cordognan, France, who had sought refuge in Mauritius soon after it became a French Colony .
He had six sons and three daughters, and had the satisfaction of seeing one of his sons obtain the above-mentioned scholarship , and another become Superintendent of the Government Schools , three others entered the Ministry, and one of them, the Rev. S H Anderson, of Paris has translated the Gospels and Psalms into the Creole patois."
Thankyou for your time, and I apologise if this post is long, but the information may be of help to someone.
Warmest rgds, Jeannine
John Anderson b. 1814 Glasgow Lanarkshire
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Re: John Anderson b. 1814 Glasgow Lanarkshire
Neglected to mention I have John's OPR for his birth, and his father was William Anderson b. 1778, and mother Jane (Jean) Grieve, both born Scotland, although I don't have much information on them either.
Thanks again, Jeannine
Thanks again, Jeannine
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Re: John Anderson b. 1814 Glasgow Lanarkshire
Hi Jeannine
And welcome to Talking Scot.
You have not mentioned how old you think he was when he married or where you think he married (maybe because you do not know?) - I'm guessing France, or Mauritius? This candidate in Scotland seems about the right age (ages were rounded down to the nearest 5 in 1841 census, so age 30 would be correct for him) and has a likely occupation, but without a few more clues (such as other known about family members in the same household), it is difficult to know if it is the right man. I found it at http://www.freecen.org.uk
SCT1841/503 Place: Row -Dunbartonshire Enumeration District: 4
Civil Parish: Row Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Row
Folio: 503 Page: 18
Address: Suffock St
Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
ANDERSON John M 30 Clergyman Outside Census County (1841)
FRASER Margaret F 50 Female Servant Outside Census County (1841)
- and given his travels as outlined above, he could be anywhere in 1841, and this could be the wrong man alltogether!
Could this book by your man?
http://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/008612361
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=8Etu ... &q&f=false
Best wishes
Lesley
And welcome to Talking Scot.
You have not mentioned how old you think he was when he married or where you think he married (maybe because you do not know?) - I'm guessing France, or Mauritius? This candidate in Scotland seems about the right age (ages were rounded down to the nearest 5 in 1841 census, so age 30 would be correct for him) and has a likely occupation, but without a few more clues (such as other known about family members in the same household), it is difficult to know if it is the right man. I found it at http://www.freecen.org.uk
SCT1841/503 Place: Row -Dunbartonshire Enumeration District: 4
Civil Parish: Row Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Row
Folio: 503 Page: 18
Address: Suffock St
Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
ANDERSON John M 30 Clergyman Outside Census County (1841)
FRASER Margaret F 50 Female Servant Outside Census County (1841)
- and given his travels as outlined above, he could be anywhere in 1841, and this could be the wrong man alltogether!
Could this book by your man?
http://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/008612361
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=8Etu ... &q&f=false
Best wishes
Lesley
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Re: John Anderson b. 1814 Glasgow Lanarkshire
Lesley, thanks so much for replying to my post.
It appears the book you refer is indeed by my John, whilst in Mauritius.
Information handed down by family indicates John and Euphemie married in Mauritius in the 1840's.
I will get back as soon as I can gather some more information from my "files".
Again, thankyou.
Rgds Jeannine
It appears the book you refer is indeed by my John, whilst in Mauritius.
Information handed down by family indicates John and Euphemie married in Mauritius in the 1840's.
I will get back as soon as I can gather some more information from my "files".
Again, thankyou.
Rgds Jeannine
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Re: John Anderson b. 1814 Glasgow Lanarkshire
Hi again. I have the information regarding John's siblings.
Janet Anderson b. 1806 Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Mary McQueen Anderson b. 1807 (Glasgow, Lanark.?) d. 1885 Kew Gardens, London
Agnes Forrester Anderson b. 1809 (Glasgow, Lanark?) d. 1871 Carlisle, Cumberland, England
James Anderson b. 1811 (Glasgow, Lanark.) d. 1820's
William Anderson b. 1813 Glasgow, Lanarkshire d. Feb 1871 Birmingham, England
Thomas Anderson b. 1816 d. 1830 Moffatt? Dumfrieshire
This information is again from family sources.
I wanted to let you know I am on Ancestry.com, but have just about exhausted their db's trying to find any info on John, or his parents.
Warmest regards
Jeannine
Janet Anderson b. 1806 Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Mary McQueen Anderson b. 1807 (Glasgow, Lanark.?) d. 1885 Kew Gardens, London
Agnes Forrester Anderson b. 1809 (Glasgow, Lanark?) d. 1871 Carlisle, Cumberland, England
James Anderson b. 1811 (Glasgow, Lanark.) d. 1820's
William Anderson b. 1813 Glasgow, Lanarkshire d. Feb 1871 Birmingham, England
Thomas Anderson b. 1816 d. 1830 Moffatt? Dumfrieshire
This information is again from family sources.
I wanted to let you know I am on Ancestry.com, but have just about exhausted their db's trying to find any info on John, or his parents.
Warmest regards
Jeannine
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LesleyB
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Re: John Anderson b. 1814 Glasgow Lanarkshire
Here is John Kay's etching of Sir William Honeyman, Bart., Lord Chief Justice of Scotland:
http://edinburghbookshelf.org.uk/volume ... s/871/zoom
and here is the biographical sketch
http://edinburghbookshelf.org.uk/volume9/page225.html
http://edinburghbookshelf.org.uk/volume ... s/871/zoom
and here is the biographical sketch
http://edinburghbookshelf.org.uk/volume9/page225.html
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Re: John Anderson b. 1814 Glasgow Lanarkshire
Hi Jeannine
Does the OPR of John's birth give an occupation for his father? Have you looked for the marriage or Banns of his parents?
Best wishes
Lesley
Does the OPR of John's birth give an occupation for his father? Have you looked for the marriage or Banns of his parents?
Where have you found his birth? That surely gives parent names too? Do you know exactly what the connection is to the Honeymans/Lord Armadale? (generally those with titles have easier to find family tree information!)his father was William Anderson b. 1778
Best wishes
Lesley
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Re: John Anderson b. 1814 Glasgow Lanarkshire
Hello again. I took a while to get back, as your questions have prompted me to do some further investigation on the OPR's, which threw up yet another tasty morsel!
On John's OPR Birth Record, witnesses: John McNish & Richard Honeymann, whichmay fit in with my records
Sir Patrick Honeyman b. 1730? Clestrain Hall, Stromness, Orkney m. UK date Margaret McKay 1740?
Two of their children were:
Sir William Honeyman (Lord Armadale etc.)b. Dec 1756 m. Mary McQueen etc……
Sister, Janet Honeyman b. 1758 Tron? p. d. 1824 m. Jan 1781 (Midlothian Extracted PR), John Grieve b. 1755, New Grayfriars p.
Daughter, Jane (Jean) Grieve b. 1786 Peebles, d. Feb 1826 Glasgow, m. William Anderson 2 b. 22 Feb 1778 (OPR Births 644/0101600380 Glasgow) d. Oct 1829 Tortola, British Virgin Islands.
N.B OPR's purchased from Scotlands People difficult to read, and, luckily, just used to confirm family records. It looks like William 1’s occupation was merchant.
William Anderson 1 b. 1751? Scotland d. 1827? Scotland m. 1771? Agnes Forrester b. 1760? Scotland d. uk, their names from William 2s OPR, dob’s, etc from deductions and family history records.
John Anderson b. 12 May 1814 (OPR Births 644/0102100161 Glasgow) page 138, Anderson, William – Merchant - & Jane Grieve at Law Son John born 12th. Witnesses John McNish & Richard Honeyman
Thus, Sir William Honeyman, Lord Armadale, was my John Anderson’s Great Uncle? I think?
I'm sorry if this is a little muddled. I have no records of date of John's marriage, and can only deduce from dob's of children, so approx 1842, and in Mauritius I believe because Euphemie Marie Elie and her family were still there, I believe??
Thanks once again for your very valuable help.
Rgds, Jeannine
On John's OPR Birth Record, witnesses: John McNish & Richard Honeymann, whichmay fit in with my records
Sir Patrick Honeyman b. 1730? Clestrain Hall, Stromness, Orkney m. UK date Margaret McKay 1740?
Two of their children were:
Sir William Honeyman (Lord Armadale etc.)b. Dec 1756 m. Mary McQueen etc……
Sister, Janet Honeyman b. 1758 Tron? p. d. 1824 m. Jan 1781 (Midlothian Extracted PR), John Grieve b. 1755, New Grayfriars p.
Daughter, Jane (Jean) Grieve b. 1786 Peebles, d. Feb 1826 Glasgow, m. William Anderson 2 b. 22 Feb 1778 (OPR Births 644/0101600380 Glasgow) d. Oct 1829 Tortola, British Virgin Islands.
N.B OPR's purchased from Scotlands People difficult to read, and, luckily, just used to confirm family records. It looks like William 1’s occupation was merchant.
William Anderson 1 b. 1751? Scotland d. 1827? Scotland m. 1771? Agnes Forrester b. 1760? Scotland d. uk, their names from William 2s OPR, dob’s, etc from deductions and family history records.
John Anderson b. 12 May 1814 (OPR Births 644/0102100161 Glasgow) page 138, Anderson, William – Merchant - & Jane Grieve at Law Son John born 12th. Witnesses John McNish & Richard Honeyman
Thus, Sir William Honeyman, Lord Armadale, was my John Anderson’s Great Uncle? I think?
I'm sorry if this is a little muddled. I have no records of date of John's marriage, and can only deduce from dob's of children, so approx 1842, and in Mauritius I believe because Euphemie Marie Elie and her family were still there, I believe??
Thanks once again for your very valuable help.
Rgds, Jeannine