Jane Marshall c1820 Ayrshire

[Gloria]

I am looking for the birth/baptism of Jane Marshall born c1820 Ayrshire. I know the following
--Details from marriage cert
St Andrew, Leyland, Lancashire Oct 1840
John Yates, full age, bachelor, boilermaker, of Whittle le Woods, father-Thomas Yates boilermaker
Jane Marshall, full age, spinster, of Whittle le Woods, father William Marshall gardener
both signed with their cross
Witnesses Nathan Birchall and Elizabeth Yates

In 1841, 51 and 61 census, all born Ayrshire she is living with John and her children in Chorley,Lancashire England.
In 1871 census Jane was in Scotland 106 Ardgorren St, Glasgow, with her sons Yates and Robert. They are living with her daughter Mary J and her family. Jane is a widow and "born in Ayrshire".
1881 census 42 Harrison St, Salford, Lancashire living with her widowed daughter and family.

Death--
Name: Jane Yates
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1820
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1894
Age at Death: 74
Registration District: Salford Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 63

I have looked on scotlands people for Jane with no luck, and I have searched for William Marshall gardener again with no luck.

Has anyone any ideas please. Or, could someone be related to her???? said with fingers crossed.

[SarahND]

Hello Gloria and

The only William Marshall, gardener, I can find is in Duns, Berwick in 1841 and in Langton, Berwick in 1851, born in Duns about 1795. Nobody else in the household. Could he have been gardening in Ayrshire when Jane was born? The name is too common to jump to any conclusions, unfortunately.

All the best,
Sarah

[Gloria]

Thankyou Sarah. Bit of a brick wall not helped by such common names.

[SarahND]

I know the feeling. Been banging my head on the wall of a James Russell all day and decided to take a break and look for your William Marshall

Cheers,
Sarah

[Gloria]

Cheers

[AndrewP]

Hi Gloria,

Assuming the "Ayrshire" bit is correct, I searched the OPR births of Ayrshire from 1810 to 1825 for J*an* Marshall, and got 15 results: 1 Jane, 5 Jeans and 9 Janets. Sadly none of these have a father named William. So, if she was born in Ayrshire, it is looking most likely that there is no surviving record of her in the OPRs.

The reasons could be one of the following:

• She was not baptised
• She was baptised in a church other than the (Established) Church of Scotland
• She was baptised in the (Established) Church of Scotland, but no record was made in the registers
• She was baptised in the (Established) Church of Scotland, but the record has not survived

So unless some other nugget of information is forthcoming, I have my doubts that you will find a birth / baptism record for her.

Sorry to be so negative,

AndrewP

[Gloria]

Don't be sorry Andrew, thankyou for looking. Sometimes a different pair of eyes can spot something else.
Thanks for trying
Gloria

[Currie]

Hello Gloria,

Is this the deceased husband?

The Blackburn Standard, Wednesday, May 13, 1863.
DEATHS.
On the 7th instant, suddenly, Mr. John Yates, boiler maker, Lyons Lane, Chorley, aged 43 years.

Alan

[Gloria]

Yes that is him Currie.