Semple, McLaughlin, and O'Boyle.....

[erthomas]

I am looking for information on Thomas and Agnes Semple (nee. McLaughlin) and Thomas' cousin John O'Boyle. I believe all 3 were born in Ireland, Thomas (March 16, 1893) and John (about 1894) in Antrim and Agnes (about 1890) in Donegal, and then came to Scotland. Thomas and Agnes had four children who were born in Scotlan, but I dont know where. James P. born about 1914, Jeenie (or Jean) about 1916, Thomas about 1918, and John about 1920. They all eventually immigrated to the U.S. I dont know when Thomas came but Agnes, John and all 4 children traveled in October 1923 on the Megantic and their final destination is listed as Canton Ohio. Agnes' last residence was in Dalmuir Scotland and her closest relative is listed as Thomas' mother living at 11 Patterson Street, Dalmuir. John O'Boyle's closest relative is listed as his wife living at 4 Mitchell Street, Rutherglen. I do not have the first names of wither the wife or mother. I have not been able to find birth records for anyone. Any help unraveling this would be really appreciated.

Erin

[HeatherH]

Welcome to TalkingScot Erin.Hope we can help you with your rellie hunting.
Happy Hunting,
HeatherK aka Wee Bairn

[WilmaM]

Hello Erin,

Have you looked for the family on the 1901 census for Scotland ?
In the hope that they came over the water before that.

I hope you are sucessful.

[erthomas]

After talking to my uncle I have to fix a few things.... Thomas P. Semple was born March 16, 1893 in Mannorcunningham Donegal Ireland. His father was James Semple who was born in Scotland but was a land steward for Lord Letrim in Ireland. Thomas went to Scotland to work at Brown Shippingyard (I think this is the correct name) While in Scotland he met and married Agnes MacLaughlin (or similar spelling) who was born in Antrim Ireland around 1890. They had 4 children while living in Scotland, James P. (about 1914), Jeanie (about 1916), Thomas (about 1918), and John (about 1920) I cant find a marriage record or birth records for any of the children. Thomas left Scotland in 1923 followed about 6 months later by Agnes and the children. A John O'Boyle is listed as traveling to the same location as Agnes but I have reason to believe that he was not really related to the family. I believe that Agnes had 3 siblings, Patrick, Michael, and Lily. It is listed on the ship manifest for Agnes that her clostest relative in Scotland was Thomas' mother but I was told that she and the children had lived with Lily after Thomas had left. Any help or information would be appreciated.


Erin

[JustJean]

Hi Erin and Welcome!

I just looked for a marriage and it looks like this might be the one you seek....

1 1914 SEMPLE THOMAS MCLAUGHLIN AGNES OLD OR WEST KILPATRICK DUNBARTON 501/00 0021

altho I didn't buy the view to see the actual record. This is available through the online records of Scotland's People. As for the birth records in Scotland you won't find them online at SP because of the closure rules on births after 1904. The records can be accessed though in person at NRH or if you know the date or a close time frame I think the GROS will search for you....but I've never done this so you should read about the procedure for that. There is a link through our "Scources" button to General Register Office Scotland.

Hope this helps you along

Best wishes
Jean

PS....and just adding this on.....if the marriage record above gives the maiden name of Thomas's mom then you have a good chance of finding her death in Scotland (if she stayed and died there before 1954 that is!!) by searching on SP using her maiden and married surnames.....

[erthomas]

Its a good chance that that is them. My uncle thought they were married around 1914 but he didnt know the exact date. hopefull I can find a little more info on them and their family

Erin

[erthomas]

How would i go about finding Thomas' father in Scotland?

[JustJean]

Hi Erin

In reply to your above question....I'm assuming you mean find his birth in Scotland. That would not be simple without at least knowing his parents names or a likely birth location or date. It could be guessed at though. Do you have any idea when he was born or his parents names or even when he would have left Scotland to go to Ireland???? I'm also assuming he married in Ireland???

Might be able to pick him up from a census return in Scotland. If you post what details you do know about James someone will likely be able to give you more precise advice.

Were you able to view the marriage for Thomas and Agnes and if so was that helpful?

Best wishes
Jean

[Andy]

Thomas and Agnes had at least 6 children by 1830 when the were living in Cambridge City, Guernsay County, Ohio.

James, Jennie, Thomas and John all born in Scotland and Ohio born Francis (male) and Mary born in Ohio.

Thomas arrived in 1923 in Pennsylvania, Agnes and the children also arrived in 1823 reportedly in Alabama.

Both sets of parents should be named in the 1914 marriage. If Thomas and Agnes can't be found in Scotland in 1901, Irish census returns ARE available for 1901 and 1911 (but not online).

[erthomas]

Agnes and the 4 older children arrived in Boston in October of 1923 aboard the White Star Liner the Megantic. They first went to Canton to meet Thomas at a friends house, the Sullivans. From there they moved to Dennison Ohio where Thomas worked for Penn Central. They lost their house during the depression and moved to Gournsey county where Thomas worked for the railroad. I havent been able to find when or by what means Thomas came other than the year 1923. I havent been able to view the marriage record for Agnes and Thomas yet, I can't use sites that require payment. I don't know anything about Agnes' parents yet and all I know about Thomas' parents is that my uncle believes their names were James and Mary and that James worked as a land steward in Ireland. Thanks for the help so far, hopefully I can find more.

Erin