Clerks to the Monks.....

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Scozzie
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Clerks to the Monks.....

Post by Scozzie » Wed Sep 28, 2005 12:27 pm

I've traced the Clark branch of my family back to the mid 1600s in Orkney (via Caithness) - with a load of help from a family member. I'm told the surname came about because the men were clerks to the monks on Orkney. The clerks were not monks, so they were free to marry (or I wouldn't be here!). I've Googled everything I can think of, but have no idea what to try next. Does anyone have any idea where I can find information on the clerks of the monks of Orkney? [-o<
This explains why my great-granny sang songs in Gaelic!
Adam/Aird/Bell/Beveridge/Clark/Davidson/Dunn/Millar/Morning/ McKinlay/McVake/McVickers/Pryde/Robertson..... and Smith!

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Re: Clerks to the Monks

Post by AndrewP » Wed Sep 28, 2005 12:48 pm

Scozzie wrote:This explains why my great-granny sang songs in Gaelic!
Your great-granny must have learned her Gaelic elsewhere. Gaelic was not a language used in Orkney (or Shetland). Most of their non-English words are of Scandinavian origin.

This webpage may be of interest to you.

http://www.sspx.co.uk/place.php?placeid=31

All the best,

Andrew Paterson

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Post by Andy » Wed Sep 28, 2005 1:09 pm

Hi there, I'd be doing some careful checking of your family member's facts. Gaelic was never spoken on Orkney and by the mid 1600's there wouldn't be any Monks on the Island.

Indeed, to a large extent Monks, everywhere in the dim and distant past, were the Clerks since so few folk could read or write.
Searching for Keogh, Kelly, Fitzgerald, Riddell, Stewart, Wilson, McQuilkin, Lynch, Boyle, Cairney, Ross, King, McIlravey, McCurdy, Drennan and Woods (to name but a few).

Also looking for any information on Rathlin Island, County Antrim, Ireland.

Scozzie
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Post by Scozzie » Wed Sep 28, 2005 2:04 pm

Thanks for the info - I'll go look. I don't think my relations in 1600 were clerks to the monks - I only believe the surname originated because they were clerks to the Monks many years before. I didn't say my great-granny was from Orkney! My great-great granny was from Wick. I never heard my great-granny sing - my mum said her granny used to sing songs in a funny language - and mum was only a child when she heard her granny. It could have been any language - maybe even a nonsense song that granny liked. Mum just assumed it was Gaelic.
Adam/Aird/Bell/Beveridge/Clark/Davidson/Dunn/Millar/Morning/ McKinlay/McVake/McVickers/Pryde/Robertson..... and Smith!

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Post by breakish » Sun Oct 09, 2005 5:42 pm

i believe the clarks are a sept of the clan macpherson , the name macpherson means son of the parson, there are believed four different septs of the clan, badenoch the main clan, sleat on skye , argyllshire and the outer hebrides, barra, south uist etc

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Post by Scozzie » Mon Oct 10, 2005 12:27 am

Thanks Breakish, I'll have a look at McPherson.
Adam/Aird/Bell/Beveridge/Clark/Davidson/Dunn/Millar/Morning/ McKinlay/McVake/McVickers/Pryde/Robertson..... and Smith!