1924 caesarian birth.....

[ladybird]

Hi all you knowledgable folks

From SP I have a death entry for my great aunt, is there any way to find out if the baby from the caesarian section she had survived please?
Would stillborn be classed as death as there seem to be no other Thomson/Jeffrey deaths in that period?

1924 deaths in the district of St Andrew in the city of Edinburgh
#155 Jane Isabella Thomson, married to Daniel Thomson.
1924 April tenth, 19 Drumsheugh Gardens, Edinburgh, usual residence Schoolhouse, Kingston, North Berwick, age 40 years,
father John Jeffrey, checker, mother Frances Helen Jeffrey ms Marah deceased.
Cause of death Acute general Peritonitis following Caesarian Section as cert by RW Johnstone MD.
Informant TH Thomson, brother in law

Also I have 5 credits left but SP won't let me view matches without buying more!

Sylvia

Oh dah!!! credits expired...blast!!

[nelmit]

Hi all you knowledgable folks

From SP I have a death entry for my great aunt, is there any way to find out if the baby from the caesarian section she had survived please?
Would stillborn be classed as death as there seem to be no other Thomson/Jeffrey deaths in that period?

1924 deaths in the district of St Andrew in the city of Edinburgh
#155 Jane Isabella Thomson, married to Daniel Thomson.
1924 April tenth, 19 Drumsheugh Gardens, Edinburgh, usual residence Schoolhouse, Kingston, North Berwick, age 40 years,
father John Jeffrey, checker, mother Frances Helen Jeffrey ms Marah deceased.
Cause of death Acute general Peritonitis following Caesarian Section as cert by RW Johnstone MD.
Informant TH Thomson, brother in law

Also I have 5 credits left but SP won't let me view matches without buying more!

Sylvia

Oh dah!!! credits expired...blast!!

Hello Sylvia,

Unfortunately I know from experience that stillbirths were not recorded as either births nor deaths.
It's changed a bit now I believe, at least you can give your stillborn child a name today and receive a registration certificate.

Regards,
Annette M

[ladybird]

Thanks Annette
Maybe that's what happened. I don't know if they had any children, they married in 1919 when Jane was 35, so maybe a little old (and dangerous healthwise?) to be starting a family.
Sylvia

[DavidWW]

There's a Register Of Stillbirths from 1939 onwards but it's closed and extracts are only issued in exceptional situations involving legal reasons.

Prior to 1939 it's most likely that there will be no record if it was true stillbirth. If the child survived for a few minutes, then there should be birth and death register entries.

While you haven't found a matching infant death, is there a date and place matching birth?

David

[nelmit]

There's a Register Of Stillbirths from 1939 onwards but it's closed and extracts are only issued in exceptional situations involving legal reasons.

Prior to 1939 it's most likely that there will be no record if it was true stillbirth. If the child survived for a few minutes, then there should be birth and death register entries.

While you haven't found a matching infant death, is there a date and place matching birth?

David

Sorry I should have remained focused and mentioned the closed register of surnames.

[DavidWW]

There's a Register Of Stillbirths from 1939 onwards but it's closed and extracts are only issued in exceptional situations involving legal reasons.

Prior to 1939 it's most likely that there will be no record if it was true stillbirth. If the child survived for a few minutes, then there should be birth and death register entries.

While you haven't found a matching infant death, is there a date and place matching birth?

David

Sorry I should have remained focused and mentioned the closed register of surnames.

Nae prob! No need for a "sorry"

David

[ladybird]

While you haven't found a matching infant death, is there a date and place matching birth?

David

Will have to wait till my purse can cough up some more pennies for credits......it's been an expensive month, what with paying for an Irish lookup and finding some exciting certs for my English lot.
Have put on the backburner for now, after all they aren't going anywhere.

Sylvia

[joette]

Does it give duration of illness? For instance she may have had the child in 1923 & the infection a long chronic one.She may have had the child in North Berwick where she normally lived but I am assuming that the death was very close Post-Natal & the delivery in Edinburgh because of the surgery involved.
Incidentally that was the method of delivery for Queen Elizabeth & her late sister Princess Margeret.Two Ceaserian Deliveries in that era was quite unusual & off course pre-Penicillin so with greater risk of Post-operative infection.
My wee sister has had four such deliveries,one of which I was present at & even in these days of modern science & knowledge they managed to start cutting her before the Epidural had taken affect.This was the most horrendous thing I have ever seen & I have seen some things.I wont go into details but the baby was in distress & they couldnt wait any longer....
She is now a healthy beautiful nineteen year old young lady & one of the biggest joys in my life.How sad fore your Great-Aunt to go through so much suffering & either not be alive to emjoy her child or indeed for them both to have died.
There are two Death Entries for children named Thomson both female in St Andrews Edinburgh one 1923/one 1924 although the 1924 has a later name of Catherine with the added surname of Douglas Ramsay.

[paddyscar]

Have put on the backburner for now, after all they aren't going anywhere.

Sylvia

Thanks for that, been a rough day

Frances