Hugh McIntyre / Argyll.....

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Kathy2001
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Hugh McIntyre / Argyll.....

Post by Kathy2001 » Sun Jan 08, 2006 3:20 pm

Hi,
I have hit a brick wall with my GGG Grandparent's Hugh McIntyre and Isabella Bell!!

There marriage was registered in both Dalserf and Barony, Glasgow in 1839.

I found them both again in Garngadhill Road, Glasgow with their Grandchildren in the 1871 census. It states that Hugh was from Corpach in Argyll born about 1811 and Isabella was from Kilchoman born about 1807.

I have searched through most of the sites available and can't find a birth for either of them in those area's or their parent's!!!!

Is there anyone out there who can help me????


Kathy


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Post by AndrewP » Sun Jan 08, 2006 3:29 pm

Hi Kathy,

Welcome to TalkingScot.

The next documents you need to seek are their death certificates. These should include the parents' names, including the mother's maiden surname.

All the best,

Andrew Paterson

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Re McIntyre's

Post by Kathy2001 » Sun Jan 08, 2006 7:02 pm

Thank you Andrew,

Applying for the death certificates was a last ressort; I just thought someone might have some information without going to that extreme!!

Kathy

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Re Hugh McIntyre & Isabella Bell

Post by Jack » Sun Jan 08, 2006 7:41 pm

Hi Kathy,
Welcome!, and Andrew's advice is sound because unfortunately it doesn't seem likely you'll find Isabella's birth.
According to the 1861 census Isabella (50) says born Kilchoman, Islay and the OPR births for that parish only begin in 1821....

Hugh (46) in the 1861 census says born Fort William, Invernesshire, but Corpach is only abt 2mls away.
Both were probably in Kilmallie Parish.

Andrew gives a good explanation about Kilmallie in this post -
http://talkingscot.com/forum/viewtopic. ... =kilmallie
Jack

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Re McIntyre's

Post by Kathy2001 » Sun Jan 08, 2006 9:06 pm

Hi Jack,

You have just confirmed what I found recently; looks like I'll have to purchase after all. It was worth a try!

Thank you both very much anyway!!

Kathy

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Re Hugh McIntyre & Isabella Bell

Post by Jack » Mon Jan 09, 2006 12:52 am

Hi Kathy,
Don't feel too bad about having to get their DCs - you'd have to at some point!

For eg, say there are half a dozen Hugh McIntyres born in the Corpach area around 1811; how would you know which one is "yours"?
It would need to be a look at Hugh's DC to find out (his parents will hopefully be known - and correct!).
As regards Isabella, a look at her DC is the only way you're going to find her parents at all (again hope they were known).

Wishing you success with them - Jack

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McIntyre 1851 census

Post by Jack » Wed Jan 11, 2006 9:20 pm

Hi Kathy,
Here they are in 1851 with another son; but can't see a Dalserf born Duncan in Lanarkshire 1861.
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1851 cens 622 (604) Ed 9 p 12 (Barony - Maryhill)
Keppochhill.
Hugh McINTYRE, head, marr, 34, coal labourer, b Fort William, INV
Isabella McINTYRE, wife, marr, 39, ------------- b Islay, ARL
Duncan McINTYRE, son, 12, iron moulder, b Dalserf, LKS
William McINTYRE, son, 11, scholar, b Dalserf, LKS
Margaret McINTYRE, daur, 9, scholar, b Glasgow, LKS
Janet McINTYRE, daur, 2, ------------- b Maryhill, LKS
--
Jack

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Re-McIntyre

Post by Kathy2001 » Mon Jan 16, 2006 3:57 pm

Hi Jack,

Thanks for your reply! My Cousin from Austrailia has just e-mailed me and told me that you had posted a message on this site.

I wasn't aware that Hugh and Isabella had a son called Duncan so I hold my hat off to you for finding another of their children.

Can't thank you enough!

Kathy

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Hugh McIntyre/Argylle

Post by Kathy2001 » Wed Jan 18, 2006 9:39 pm

He Jack, are you still there??

You looked up the 1851 census for my McIntyre's a few day's ago; I don't suppose their was a street name on tthe census form??

Your servant alway's!!

Kathy

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Keppochhill in 1851

Post by Jack » Wed Jan 18, 2006 11:35 pm

Hi Kathy,
That was it - just Kepppochhill.
At that time it probably wasn't big enough to need a number!
But i'll look and see if i can get a rough idea of how many folk lived there.
Jack