SCOTTISH NAMING.....

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jennovo
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SCOTTISH NAMING.....

Post by jennovo » Sun Jan 29, 2006 10:19 pm

Hello Everyone,

Who will tell me how children were named in Scotland? I have confused myself and cannot remember which grandparents came first.

Thank you for your help.
Jen
REID, FAIRGREIVE, RANKIN, HOGG, NIMMO, PORTEOUS, LOVE, SOMMERVILLE, DOUGLAS, OVEREND, CAMPBELL, WALLACE.

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Post by caraid » Sun Jan 29, 2006 10:44 pm

Hi Jen
Eldest Son after Fathers Father
Second Son after Mothers Father
Third Son after Father
Eldest Daughter after Mothers Mother
Second Daughter after Fathers Mother
Third Daughter after Mother
Thereafter names of Father and Mothers Siblings were generally used.

Hope this helps.

Caraid

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Post by Tracey » Sun Jan 29, 2006 10:45 pm

Hi Jen

1st Son named after Fathers Father
2nd Son named after Mothers Father
3rd Son named after Father
4th Son named after Father's oldest brother
5th Son named after 2nd oldest brother or mother's oldest brother

1st Daughter named after Mothers Mother
2nd Daughter named after Fathers Mother
3rd Daughter named after Mother
4th Daughter named after Mothers oldest sister
5th Daughter named after 2nd oldest sister or Fathers oldest sister

But dont take this as gospel - keep an open mind :!: :wink:
Scotland - Donaldson / Moggach / Shaw / Geddes / Sim / Gray / Mackie / Richards / Joel / Coull / Mckimmie / Panton / McGregor
Ireland and Scotland - Casey / McDade / Phillips / McCandle / Dinely / Comaskey + various spellings

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Post by jennovo » Sun Jan 29, 2006 11:49 pm

Thank you for your help.

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REID, FAIRGREIVE, RANKIN, HOGG, NIMMO, PORTEOUS, LOVE, SOMMERVILLE, DOUGLAS, OVEREND, CAMPBELL, WALLACE.

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Post by Tracey » Mon Jan 30, 2006 12:04 am

Hi Jen

The only evidence of a naming pattern i have is with all my William's :evil: :!: It doesnt seem to be the case with my others so far :?:
I see you have Rankin on your list, were they originally from Banff ? i have a lot that migrated to Australia and New Zealand.
Scotland - Donaldson / Moggach / Shaw / Geddes / Sim / Gray / Mackie / Richards / Joel / Coull / Mckimmie / Panton / McGregor
Ireland and Scotland - Casey / McDade / Phillips / McCandle / Dinely / Comaskey + various spellings

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Post by Scozzie » Mon Jan 30, 2006 4:14 am

Don't forget that the Scots are good at giving their children the tradditional "family" names, and then calling them something else. I'm one of a long line of Catherines..... and we're all called something else - Kate, Katrina, Irene, Rene, Renee, Cate... just about everything, but not Cathy.
Adam/Aird/Bell/Beveridge/Clark/Davidson/Dunn/Millar/Morning/ McKinlay/McVake/McVickers/Pryde/Robertson..... and Smith!

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Post by jennovo » Mon Jan 30, 2006 7:44 am

Hello Tracey,

I actually have two Margaret Rankin but from different families!!

Margaret Rankin born abt. 1840 in Rothsey married Kevin Edward Smith in Katoomba New South Wales 28 Aug 1959. She married my second cousin.

The other born abt. 1750 in East Lothian married John Fairgrieve in East Lothian abt. 1775. She is my 5th great grandmother and is as far back as I am with her line.

REGARDING NAMING: Is there rhyme or reason to using middle names. My g.g.grandfather had the middle name of Thomson but I know one of his sisters also carried this middle name and another carried the name of Gilchrist.

Thanks once again for your help.

Jen.
REID, FAIRGREIVE, RANKIN, HOGG, NIMMO, PORTEOUS, LOVE, SOMMERVILLE, DOUGLAS, OVEREND, CAMPBELL, WALLACE.

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Post by ninatoo » Mon Jan 30, 2006 9:01 am

The middle names I have tended to come from maiden names of grandmothers. Therefore Thomas Carson's mother in law was a McCulloch before marriage, and so one of his daugter's was named Margaret McCulloch Carson. His own mother had the maiden name Hyslop, so another daughter of Thomas' was Mary Hyslop Carson.

As for naming patterns...some of my families have strictly adhered to the pattern, others have used the same names but not in 'order', and others again totally disregarded family names. Some of mine also reused a name when a child died.

I guess it depended on the individual.

So I guess I am saying that names can be a clue....but there does not seem to always be a hard and fast rule about it.

Nina

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Post by LesleyB » Mon Jan 30, 2006 9:22 am

Hi Nina
Thomas Carson's mother in law was a McCulloch before marriage, and so one of his daugter's was named Margaret McCulloch Carson
:shock: OK - you've got me interested now!....who is your Margaret McCulloch? Do you know her d.o.b? place of birth? And who was Thomas Carson's father-in-law?

Best wishes
Lelsey
Researching:
Midlothian & Fife - Goalen, Lawrie, Ewart, Nimmo, Jamieson, Dick, Ballingall.
Dunbartonshire- Mcnicol, Davy, Guy, McCunn, McKenzie.
Ayrshire- Lyon, Parker, Mitchell, Fraser.
Easter Ross- McCulloch, Smith, Ross, Duff, Rose.

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Post by CatrionaL » Mon Jan 30, 2006 9:23 am

jennovo wrote:
REGARDING NAMING: Is there rhyme or reason to using middle names. My g.g.grandfather had the middle name of Thomson but I know one of his sisters also carried this middle name and another carried the name of Gilchrist.

Thanks once again for your help.

Jen.
Hullo Jen

I have had several MIDDLE NAMES which have been the surname of a sister's husband. Others, a first wife's maiden surname. And don't forget the Middle names which were those of the Dr, Minister, Midwife or politiacal figure.

Happy Searching

Catriona