Trying to locate Jimmy "Napoleon" McMenemy's wife.

delmarco · Post by **delmarco** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 4:01 am

Ok, having difficulty finding out who James married, his parents were
McMenemy and Ann Smith, I know he had at least two sons John and Joseph, I am assuming were born after 1905, since I couldnt locate them on SP. Ive been giving bio info from the scottish football assoc, no info on his marriage seemed to be available.

any help would be appreciated

Regards,
Karen

Skene Dhu · Post by **Skene Dhu** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 9:50 pm

Hi Karen,
If you go to the following site for tributes to wee Jimmy "Jinky" Johnstone http://www.celticfc.co.uk/newsroom/jinky/jj_8.aspx you`ll find a relative of Jimmy McMenemy called Andrew Sanqua from Ontario, Canada, his email is asanqua@rogers.com they may have his wifes name.

John

Skene Dhu · Post by **Skene Dhu** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 10:16 pm

Hi again Karen,
Some more info, don`t know if you have it already.
Jimmy also had a son called Harry, who played for Newcastle United.

Jimmy McMenemy (1880 - 1965) Football player from 1902 - 1920, made 515 appearances, scored 168 goals.

In 1920 he left Celtic and joined Partick Thistle, in 1921 helped Thistle to their one and only Scottish Cup victory, beating Rangers 1 - 0

Jimmy won 7 Scottish Cup Medals : 1904, 1907, 1908, 1911, 1912, 1913 and 1921.

In 1934 was invited back to Parkhead as trainer & Assist. Manager to Willie Maley.

Son John, Scottish Cup Medal for Celtic 1927

Son Harry played for Newcastle United

Lawrie McMenemy, former manager of Southampton is Jimmy`s Great Nephew.

The info was taken from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_McMenemy

John

delmarco · Post by **delmarco** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 10:56 pm

Thank you John, Ive sent off an e-mail and we'll se if I get an answer, I'll search for more on Harry!

Regards,
Karen

Skene Dhu · Post by **Skene Dhu** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 11:48 pm

No problem Karen,

Would the following family in the 1881 census be yours by any chance.

Dwelling : 103 King Street
Census Place : Rutherglen, Lanark
Source : FHL Film 0203703 GRO Ref Volume 654 Enumdist. 20 Page 2

John McMENEMY : Head : married : M : 28 : Tyrone Co. Ireland
Occupation : Steel Works Labourer
Hannah McMENEMY : Wife : married : F : 24 : Cork, Ireland
John McMENEMY : Son : M : 5 : Rutherglen
Mary McMENEMY : Dau. : F : 4 : Rutherglen
Joseph McMENEMY : Son : M : 2 : Rutherglen
James McMENEMY : Son : M : 5m. : Rutherglen

John

Skene Dhu · Post by **Skene Dhu** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 12:18 am

Karen,

Try sending an email to Celtic Football Club, as Jimmy was very famous with them, someone there should be able to assist with Jimmy`s wifes name, their address is customerservices@celticfc.co.uk

John

delmarco · Post by **delmarco** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 12:41 am

John:
You're a doll! I sent an e-mail off to Andrew and just received a reply, he had some information, but like me, the Jimmy ties are mysterious!! Im sure quite a few families spun tales about being related to him, due to his celebrity. Then again Im sure the McMenemy's could all be related somehow. He requested to stay in touch, I thank you for puting me in touch with him, He is the 3rd family member Ive met through this pursuit.

I know his parents were James McMenemy and Ann Smith, I cannot find a marriage record although I found on his birth cert they were married in West Cadder in I believe in 1871, Iv searched on SP and came up empty.

I'll keep on looking, thanks again John for your help, its much appreciated!!

Regards,
Karen

Skene Dhu · Post by **Skene Dhu** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 2:32 am

Karen,
James McMenemy & Ann Smith were married on the 20 Aug 1871 at West Calder, West Lothian, you did not find it because James surname is indexed under McMenimy, they were both residing at Cobbinshaw, West Calder. Ann`s parents were Daniel Smith (Labourer) & Mary Clark. John`s parents were John McMenimy & Mary McMenimy. James is aged 24, and Ann is either 16 or 18 (bad writing).

John

delmarco · Post by **delmarco** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 2:45 am

John:

oh you are good!!!! Now If I could just find Jimmy's wife and my elusive Bernard Feeney, I'd be out of ideas!! You have youself the most wonderful weekend!!

Cheers
Karen

CatrionaL · Post by **CatrionaL** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 8:14 am

Karen

Since you have his year of death and his parents names, finding a death entry at New Register House shouldn't be too difficult. His wife's name should be on that.

Perhaps a TS member could do that for you while at NRH for their own research? Unfortuanately my own next visit there is a long way away.

Regards

Catriona