looking for cameron ancestors.....

yvonne · Post by **yvonne** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 10:48 pm

Help??? I`m desparate for info on my ancestors. I have searched back to 1833 and found the banns for the marriage of William Cameron and Anna Bilson, I`m tracing the Cameron line and need any info on William`s parents etc.

Living in hope!

Yvonne

LesleyB · Post by **LesleyB** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 11:10 pm

Hi Yvonne
..and a warm welcome to Talking Scot

Where were William and Anna married?
Have you had a look for the death of William Cameron on the Scotland's People site? If he lived until after 1855 then the death entry should give his parents names.

Best wishes
Lesley

yvonne · Post by **yvonne** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 1:20 pm

LesleyB wrote:Hi Yvonne
..and a warm welcome to Talking Scot

Where were William and Anna married?
Have you had a look for the death of William Cameron on the Scotland's People site? If he lived until after 1855 then the death entry should give his parents names.

Best wishes
Lesley

Hi Lesley, thanks for the speedy response.

I have the notification that William and Anna were married in Paisley Abbey, Renfrew in Aug 1833. I have found the death cert for Anna but cannot find William`s. I know he was deceased before 1871 as he was listed as so on his daughter`s wedding cert. I have looked at so many on Scotland`s people but cannot find his death cert?????? Even tried the cencus???? Will keep on tho!

Yvonne

Post by **Jean Jeanie** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 1:45 pm

Hi Yvonne

Don't know if you have this or not, but this looks like them in 1841 from FREECEN

1841 Census

Piece: SCT1841/559 Place: Abbey (Paisley)-Renfrewshire Enumeration District: 21
Civil Parish: Abbey (Paisley) Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 43 Page: 16
Address: Blackhall Buildings

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Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
CAMERON William M 30 Engine Man Renfrewshire
CAMERON Hannah F 35 Dressmaker England
CAMERON Elizabeth F 10 Outside Census County (1841)
CAMERON William M 8 Outside Census County (1841)
CAMERON James M 5 Outside Census County (1841)
CAMERON Clara F 2 Outside Census County (1841)
FERGUSON Mary F 20 Sempstress Renfrewshire

Jean

Post by **Jean Jeanie** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 2:24 pm

Yvonne

I had a look on SP for them in 1851 but no luck.

However in 1861 there are the following in Hutchestown Lanark. Don't know if they are all in the same household or not as I have no credits left.

William Cameron aged 57
Anna Cameron aged 62
Clara Cameron aged 21.

Worth a look I would think.

Jean

Jack · Post by **Jack** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 2:45 pm

Hi folks,
From the indexes issued by the http://www.gwsfhs.org.uk/
To add to Jean's findings -
Wish we all had a Clara in the family!
--
1851 cens 573 (474) Ed 20 p 16 (Abbey - Paisley)
William CAMERON, 43
Ann 52
Elizabeth 19
Clara 12
John 9
Hugh 7
--
1861 cens 644-10 Ed 37 p 7 (Hutchesontown)
Ann CAMERON, 62, b England
Elizabeth, 26, b Paisley
James, 23, b Paisley
Clara, 21, b Paisley
--possibly with them is--
John HAY, 17, b Paisley
[birthplaces don't agree with 1841 - but not all censuses are correct]
--
The William CAMERON 57 in Hutchesontown is with a 20yr old Elizabeth - both born Glasgow.
--
Jack

Post by **Jean Jeanie** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 3:43 pm

This could possibly be Clara's marriage:-

From the IGI

Clara Scott Cameron to Malcolm McKillop 4th June 1869 in Govan Lanark. Batch No M116461

And then this is probably her in 1881:-

Dwelling: 21 Parliamentary Rd
Census Place: Barony, Lanark, Scotland
Source: FHL Film 0203649 GRO Ref Volume 644-6 EnumDist 34 Page 14
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Clara MC KILLOP W 36 F Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland
Rel: Head
Occ: General Servant In Police Barracks
Malcolm MC KILLOP 10 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
Matthew GALLOWAY U 25 M Ireland
Rel: Officer In Charge
Occ: Police Constable
William SKENE U 29 M Stonehaven, Kincardine, Scotland
Rel: Boarder
Occ: Police Constable
Adam CRAIGHEAD U 27 M Fyvie, Aberdeen, Scotland
Rel: Boarder
Occ: Police Constable
John PIRIE U 30 M Lonside, Aberdeen, Scotland
Rel: Boarder
Occ: Police Constable
Wm. RIDDELL U 27 M Ireland
Rel: Boarder
Occ: Police Constable
Samuel GLASS U 20 M Ireland
Rel: Boarder
Occ: Police Constable
Matthew MERCHANT M 21 M Ireland
Rel: Boarder
Occ: Police Constable
John KENNEDY U 24 M Ireland
Rel: Boarder
Occ: Police Constable
John ORD U 19 M Gemrie, Banff, Scotland
Rel: Boarder
Occ: Police Constable
John CASKIE U 26 M Neilston, Renfrew, Scotland
Rel: Boarder
Occ: Police Constable
Neil GILLES U 26 M Durnish Skye, Inverness, Scotland
Rel: Boarder
Occ: Police Constable
Robert Brown MC CALL U 25 M Sanquhar, Dumfries, Scotland
Rel: Boarder
Occ: Police Constable
Wm. John CUBITT U 20 F Ireland
Rel: Boarder
Occ: Police Constable
Campbell MC GREGOR U 21 M East Kilbride, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Boarder
Occ: Police Constable

Jean

yvonne · Post by **yvonne** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 4:46 pm

Jean Jeanie wrote:Hi Yvonne

Don't know if you have this or not, but this looks like them in 1841 from FREECEN

1841 Census

Piece: SCT1841/559 Place: Abbey (Paisley)-Renfrewshire Enumeration District: 21
Civil Parish: Abbey (Paisley) Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 43 Page: 16
Address: Blackhall Buildings

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Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
CAMERON William M 30 Engine Man Renfrewshire
CAMERON Hannah F 35 Dressmaker England
CAMERON Elizabeth F 10 Outside Census County (1841)
CAMERON William M 8 Outside Census County (1841)
CAMERON James M 5 Outside Census County (1841)
CAMERON Clara F 2 Outside Census County (1841)
FERGUSON Mary F 20 Sempstress Renfrewshire

Jean

Hi Jeanie, Thanks so much for the info. Much appreciated! However, I`m still searching for DEATH/or other to move further back so to speak.

yvonne

yvonne · Post by **yvonne** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 4:48 pm

Jack wrote:Hi folks,
From the indexes issued by the http://www.gwsfhs.org.uk/
To add to Jean's findings -
Wish we all had a Clara in the family!
--
1851 cens 573 (474) Ed 20 p 16 (Abbey - Paisley)
William CAMERON, 43
Ann 52
Elizabeth 19
Clara 12
John 9
Hugh 7
--
1861 cens 644-10 Ed 37 p 7 (Hutchesontown)
Ann CAMERON, 62, b England

Elizabeth, 26, b Paisley
James, 23, b Paisley
Clara, 21, b Paisley
--possibly with them is--
John HAY, 17, b Paisley
[birthplaces don't agree with 1841 - but not all censuses are correct]
--
The William CAMERON 57 in Hutchesontown is with a 20yr old Elizabeth - both born Glasgow.
--
Jack

Hi Jack, Great information, thanks so much. Have you any advice on how to trace William`s death or getting more info on his marriage?

Yvonne

LesleyB · Post by **LesleyB** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 8:45 pm

Hi Yvonne
About William's marriage:
The OPRs don't usually give a great deal of info to work with when it comes to banns. Usually it will be something like this:

OPR Parish of Cardross, County of Dumbarton
June 2nd 1811, James Davie and Susannah Guy both in this Parish gave in their names for proclamation in order to Banns and received Extracts.

Sometimes a little more info is given - an occupation for the groom, perhaps the name of a farm where one of them lived, and even very occaisionally a father's name is given for the bride. You are highly unlikley to find the parents of William mentioned at all (never seen this, but I live in hope!

). However, having said that, it is always well worth looking at a copy of the original entry on microfilm, even if it is brief. You can do this in Edinburgh or at your local LDS centre where you can order the relevant film.

About finding his death: Looking at the census info it looks like your couple both still seem to be alive in 1851, so looks like William died between 51-61 which may put a spanner in the works! If he died before 1855 there will not be a death entry, but you may be able to follow up MIs (monumental inscriptions) or burial info - neither of these options are likley to give you parents names. If he died after 1855, there should be a death entry for him. Have you had a look on the Scotlands People site to see if there are any likely candidates who died between 1855-61?

If he died between 1851-55 another option is to look at the names of his children - the first born son and the second daughter might give you clues as to the names of his parents, if he followed the Scots naming pattern, then go looking for a William born Renfrewshire about the correct time (based on age on census) and see what turns up!

Best wishes
Lesley