Liddell/Wilkie/Munro glasgow.....

btm.cor · Post by **btm.cor** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 5:45 am

Hi Can anyone help me in my search for the Liddell/Wilkie family surnames. I can get back to the parents of my gt grandfather (John Watson Liddell)but beyond that is a bit vague, John had at least 5 siblings, Mary, Janet, Jessie, James and Christina. I am going to Scotland in Mid-August and would like to continue my research there.

LesleyB · Post by **LesleyB** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 8:47 am

Hi Beverley
...and a warm welcome to Talking Scot

To help us to help you, can you give us some idea of when and where John Watson Liddell & was born? And if you have them, the parents' names too please?

Best wishes
Lesley

btm.cor · Post by **btm.cor** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 10:56 am

John Watson Liddell was b March 1834, His father was a John Liddell, mother a Christina Wilkie. They were m 1833

Post by **joette** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 11:34 am

Do you know where?I have had a look on the IGI But nothing is showing up.
Do you know where the parents weremarried?Do you know where he was born?

btm.cor · Post by **btm.cor** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 12:24 pm

John Watson Liddell was born in Glasgow 15 Mar. 1834
His parents were married on the 21 June 1833 at Cambernauld. Glasgow.

Other names being researched are Main, White and Ross.

LesleyB · Post by **LesleyB** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 5:55 pm

Hi Beverley
The IGI seems a bit inconclusve on ths one:
Scotland, British Isles
Father: John Liddell, Mother: Christena Watson
Exact Spelling: Off
1. John Watson Liddell - submission
Gender: Male Birth: 15 MAR 1824 Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland

2. Janet Main Liddell - submission
Gender: Female Birth: 19 MAR 1836 Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland

3. JOHN WATSON LIDDELL - Submission
Gender: Male Christening: 15 MAR 1834 Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland

4. John Watson Liddell - Submission
Gender: Male Birth: 15 MAR 1824 Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland

They are all submissions so none have been taken directly from the OPRs
Did you find your info on the IGI or elsewhere? And did they have two Johns or has someone had a "typo" moment....Just using the search facility on Scotlands People there seems to be a John Watson Liddell born 1834, so it kinda looks like the error may lie with the 1824 submissions.

Have you traced them through any census material to try to find out when John & Christina died? Not sure if this area is up on Freecen (www.freecen.org.uk) for 1841 yet or not, but worth a try. If they died after 1855, you should find their parents' names on the death entry.

Best wishes
Lesley

btm.cor · Post by **btm.cor** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 7:52 pm

Thanks Lesley, the 1834 dates are from certificates, (OPR's) Have a copy of the 1851 Census, taken in Helensburgh, showing the parents and 5 of the childre, Janet being absent, could this be because she has died?

Jack · Post by **Jack** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 10:10 pm

Hi Beverley,
You'll maybe have the family in 1841 too? These from the name index by http://www.gwsfhs.org.uk/
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1841 census 503 Ed 3 p 2 (Row)
John LIDDELL, 35
Christina, 25
John, 7
Mary, 2
Jessie, abt 1 [possibly under 1yr]
--
The 1851 has a Jessie aged 8yrs - is this just an age error? or is Jessie abt 1 in 1841 a different girl?
(Jessie is often used for Janet)
--
Jack

btm.cor · Post by **btm.cor** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 12:12 am

NO I don't have the 1841 census record, and yes I think the 1 Yr old would be the janet , but even then the wges don't match up. The Jessie Liddell who came out to NZ, m on 3 Feb 1864, age approx 21yrs and died on 26 June 1946 She was over 100 years old. Will try and find her obituary. Thank you, Jack

Post by **SarahND** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 6:22 am

Hi Beverley,
In case it’s of any use, in the ancestry.com 1841 index, the household consists of quite a few people who may or may not be related. I have found before that the index tends to lump together neighbours as if they were in the same household, so these may not be relevant. Also, I note that if you click on “click to see others on page”, a different set of people come up, not containing the others who show up when you click “view other family members’--

strange.

Clyde Street, Row, Dunbartonshire
Parish number 503, ED 3

Christina Campbell, abt 1796, Scotland
Duncan Campbell, abt 1796, Scotland
Charles Hopkin, abt 1820, England
A Kintvea, abt 1823, Scotland
Christina Lidell, abt 1816, Scotland
Jessie Lidell, abt 1841, Scotland
John Lidell, abt 1806, Scotland
John Lidell, abt 1834, Scotland
Mary Lidell, abt 1839, Scotland
Elisabeth MacFarlane, abt 1821, Scotland
P Nugent, abt 1816, Scotland
Catharine Reid, abt 1821, Scotland
Susan Reid, abt 1824, Scotland
Thomas Reid, 1821, Scotland

Could Christina Campbell be Christina’s mother who remarried?

It’s probably worth looking at the actual image to see if there is any chance of mistranscription of their ages and to see if several households have been mistakenly lumped together.

Regards,
Sarah

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