Beattie.....

Baldy · Post by **Baldy** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 4:27 am

Hello jean.

I wonder is it would be possible for you to do a lookup for me.???
I am looking for "a" marriage of/for William Beattie (dob:-22 May 1845 in Kirkbean) parents were Willaim Beattie & Janet Agnes Callander.
I have been researching this and have been "told" that the name that I am researching may be incorrect.

This information (about being incorrect) came from the person in Canada that I share information with.He is looking at the name Mary Kennedy

The name that I have been researching/looking at is Amelia Charlotte Thomson,she was born in Troqueer.

My main concern now is that I may have been researching the wrong named person.

Kindest Regards
Ted (au)

JustJean · Post by **JustJean** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 11:50 am

Hi ted

Sorry to say I cannot do explicit lookups.....it's against company policy

! I can however help guide you so that you can find the record yourself...if indeed it does exist.......especially if you have already been trying and not succeeding.

Perhaps if you explained more about how it is you believe the spouse to be Amelia Thomson would be a good starting point. Since you state William was born in 1845 his marriage would have to have occurred after 1855 which is good! It is possible to search on SP using wildcards and search for a marriage of William Beattie to anyone that way picking up all the possibles....but without a narrow time frame that would likely return too many results.

Next choice is to search on each combination and take your pick. Without trying I'd say the name Thom(p)son is dreadfully common but adding the first name of Amelia might just save you from dozens of possibles! As a matter of fact searching on William Beattie and Amelia Thom*son in the time frame 1860-1875 anywhere returns just one result. By spending your 6 credits on this search and view you'll quickly ascertain if he is "your" William if his parents names match. Matter of fact if you know the area the marriage should be in then you may not need to buy the veiw as you'll know from the search results if the parish makes sense.

In your case you may well be in luck as a search for William Beattie to a M* Ken*edy from 1860-1895 anywhere turns up 0 possibles!

I hope this helps you!

Best wishes
Jean

Jack · Post by **Jack** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 12:39 pm

Hi Ted,
As Jean was saying - only the 1 marriage. But you've probably looked at it? And the census too.
From the IGI -
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WILLIAM BEATTIE
AMELIA C. THOMPSON
Marriage: 30 DEC 1873 Troqueer, Kirkcudbright, Scotland
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This might be the same couple, but this William is as born Minnigaff - not Kirkbean.
1881 Census Place: Troqueer, Kircudbright, Scotland
Dwelling: Barn Hill
Source: FHL Film 0224059 GRO Ref Volume 882 EnumDist 4 Page 1
Emilia THOMPSON W 53 F Troqueer, Kirkcudbright, Scotland Rel: Head
William BEATTIE M 28 M Minigaff, Kirkcudbright, Scotland Rel: Son In Law Occ: Railway Platelayer
Emilia BEATTIE M 30 F Troqueer, Kirkcudbright, Scotland Rel: Dau
William BEATTIE 7 M Troqueer, Kirkcudbright, Scotland Rel: Grdson Occ: Scholar
Joseph BEATTIE 4 M Troqueer, Kirkcudbright, Scotland Rel: Grdson
Robert BEATTIE 2 M Troqueer, Kirkcudbright, Scotland Rel: Grdson
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Jack

Baldy · Post by **Baldy** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 2:35 am

Hi Jean.
Thank you for the reply.

YES that does seem to answer the question.

Kindest Regards
Ted (au)

Baldy · Post by **Baldy** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 2:39 am

Hi Jack
Thanks for the reply.
A lot of the information that I have & get is from a person that I share information in Canada.
I does seem that it requires further investigation,as I do not know the distances apart for Kirkbean & Minnigarth.

Regards
baldy(au)

JustJean · Post by **JustJean** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 3:02 am

Hi Ted

Maybe this will help you. Click here to see a color coded Parish map of Kircudbrightshire:

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/KKD/kkdpmap.htm

You'll note that Minnigaff parish is labeled #20 and is on the far west side of the map while Kirkbean is labeled #13 and is on the far east. Soooo...not logical but still possible. Hmmmmm......I don't have a mileage scale handy but maybe someone else could estimate the true distance for you.

Best wishes
Jean

Baldy · Post by **Baldy** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 5:06 am

HI jean

I See.

There is a great distance as the crow flys.
I see that I will need a certificate

Kindest Regards
Ted (au)

Baldy · Post by **Baldy** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 7:10 am

Hi Jack

After relooking at your reply I see that William aged 28 (son-in-law) was born in Minigaff,then it states Kirkcudbright.After looking at the map link that Jean sent through, that county is no where near Kirkcudbright.

I also see that the same Wiliam is shown as a Grandson,but,when you go to the LDS site and look up William Beattie whose parents were Willaim Beattie & Amelia Thomson,it show him as a son ??

Do you think one may be incorrect ??

Regards
baldy (au)

JustJean · Post by **JustJean** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 11:37 am

Hi ted

I think I've confused you! The Parish map link above shows the whole area of Kircudbrightshire...which is then divided into parishes. There just so happens to be Kirkcudbright parish within Kircudbrightshire but don't confuse that with the description of Minnigaff, Kircudbright. The first name refers to the individual parish (ie small community) and the second name refers to the shire (a group of parishes) even thought you may not always see the word shire affixed to the end of it!!!

I'm lousy at explaining these things as in the US we use different levels for our geographical divisions and I have no idea what Australia might use. Does any of that make sense??

Best wishes
Jean

JustJean · Post by **JustJean** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 11:55 am

Hi again Ted

You may find some further understanding of "shire" by reading up on it!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shire

You'll be hearing a better explanation from a native Scot or two I'm sure.

In the meantime I hope this has helped somewhat

!

Best wishes
Jean
JJ

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