Gray 1851 census Glasgow.....

[angel]

Hi

Can someone do a 1851 census lookup for Coatbridge Glasgow. The family is John Gray either iron moulder or canal boatman maybe deceased. His wife is Francis [Fanny]age about 35 with 3 possible children.

Heather

[Jack]

Hi Heather,

Coatbridge is a town about 10 miles east of Glasgow City - both do come under Lanarkshire though.
Only mentioned in case of future searches and you're wondering why you can't find someone!
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1851 cens 652 Ed 17 p 8 (Old Monkland)
Fanny GRAY 36
James 10
Isabella 8
John 6
Thomas 4
George 20 mths

[father John isn't with them - census page will need to be looked at to see if Fanny is a widow]
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1861 cens 652-2 Ed 5 p 9
Frances GRAY 46
James 21
John 15
Thomas 13
George 11

[there is an 18yr old Isobel GRAY living very nearby]
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If you are unable to look at the films then just say - i'll get the details at some point (i've a rather large backlog!).

Jack

[angel]

Hi Jack

I could hug you not only have you confirmed three names that I already had and gave me two new names.

The info that I had for George from LDS gave his birth as 1842 and that he had died in 1854 but you have found him alive and well in 1861.

I know when Fanny died at an old age she was a widow and now I have adate to work from when looking for his death. Thanks for the offer to look up th film but I have a LDS centre near me and I can go there and look at the film.

When I was a lot younger I worked at a factory in Coatbrige and all i can remember is sitting outside in our break soaking up the sun.

Many Thanks
Heather

[Jack]

Hi Heather,

I've got the census details if you want them - though i know a lot of folk do like to look at the original film page themselves - mair exciting!

Just say if you want me to post them - ta.

Jack
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ps; so that's where all the sun goes to - Coatbridge.

[angel]

Hi Jack

I would love it if you would post the census for me as I do not know when I will be able to go to look at them myself. And I agree it is mair exciting to look at them yourself but it is fitting the time. Ta for the offer.

Heather

[Jack]

Hi Heather,

Here they are - sadly Fanny was as a widow by 1851, and so no details for hubby John.
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1851 cens 652 (635) Ed 17 p 8 (Old Monkland)
New Dundyvan, Coatbridge.
Fanny GRAY, head, widow, 36, tambourer, b Old Monkland, LKS
James GRAY, son, 10, scholar, b Old Monkland, LKS
Isabella GRAY, daur, 8, scholar, b Old Monkland, LKS
John GRAY, son, 6, ----------- b Old Monkland, LKS
Thos. GRAY, son, 4, ---------- b Old Monkland, LKS
George GRAY, son, 20 mos, --- b Old Monkland, LKS
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1861 cens 652-2 Ed 5 p 9 (Old Monkland)
Back Close, Main St, Coatbridge. [schedule 61]
Frances GRAY, head, widow, 46, ----------- Old Monkland, LKS
James GRAY, son, u/m 20, baker j/man, Old Monkland, LKS
John GRAY, son, 15, ironwork labourer, Old Monkland, LKS
Thomas GRAY, son, 13, ------- Old Monkland, LKS
George GRAY, son, 11, -------- Old Monkland, LKS
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1861 cens 652-2 Ed 5 p 10 (Old Monkland)
Back Close, Main St, Coatbridge. [schedule 68]
James CARRICK, head, marr, 39, master cooper, no men, b Bothwell, LKS
Jessie CARRICK, wife, 39, ------------- b New Monkland
ISABEL GRAY, servant, u/m 18, ---------- Old Monkland, LKS

I'd be very surprised if Isabel isn't Isabella - she's just along the street from Frances]
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Jack

[angel]

Hi Jack

Many thanks for all that info that you sent me it is a great help I am now able to narrow down the date of John's death which should make things easier when looking. Mind you I had to do a search to find out what a tambourer was that is a new occupation for the family that I had never heard of and all of your hard work is greatly appreciated.

Many Thanks
Heahter

[Jack]

Hi Heather,

It might be a wee bit difficult finding John's death date if it was in Old Monkland - as far as i'm aware there are no deaths recorded for that parish.
However if George was his son then father John was still living about Oct 1848 - i think!
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I use these for occupations - some duplication though.

http://www.cpcug.org/user/jlacombe/terms.html

http://www.gendocs.demon.co.uk/trades.html

http://www.scotroots.com/occupations.htm

http://www.rmhh.co.uk/occup/index.html
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Jack
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ps - the 1842 birth (and death 1854) for George is an LDS submission, and as such should always be taken with a certain degree of caution until proved or otherwise.
Some are correct - but others, as it seems to be in this case, aren't.
-jj

[angel]

Hi Jack

Thanks for the info regarding Old Monkland and for the sites for occupations they will come in useful.

Heather