Looking for any info on James Vasey.....

[pinkKt]

James Vasey was born in 1857 in Alloa, Clackmannanshire but moved at some point to Sunderland. I'm making a visit to the area next year and am fairly sure that when the family moved to England at least one brother remained in Alloa. It would be interesting to know more - his siblings names and parents names. If anyone can help I'd be grateful, I am struggling with this research for my husbands family

[LesleyB]

Hi PinkKt
...and a warm welcome to Talking Scot

If you know his year of birth, have you tried a search for his birth on Scotlands People? That should give you his parents' names.
However, I'm not seeing anything obvious for him in a preliminary search of either SP or the LDS site - not for Clackmannan at any rate. Can I ask where you found his year and place of birth?

Also a search in the 1861 census would be worth a try - with any luck that would place your James with his parents and maybe some siblings too? But I'm not having much luck with that either just now for Clackmannan. Hmm... maybe its the weather!

Best wishes
Lesley

[JustJean]

Hi pinkKt

Any idea what occupation James dad might have had?? There are a few possible births scattered about in that time frame of a James V*s* but without something more to go on no way of knowing if one of them might be him. Unfortunately not a thing in Alloa! (No Lesley I don't think it's the weather )

Best wishes
Jean

[nelmit]

James Vasey was born in 1857 in Alloa, Clackmannanshire but moved at some point to Sunderland. I'm making a visit to the area next year and am fairly sure that when the family moved to England at least one brother remained in Alloa. It would be interesting to know more - his siblings names and parents names. If anyone can help I'd be grateful, I am struggling with this research for my husbands family

Hello all,

A quick check of the 1881 census reveals he was born in 1847 not '57.
Still doesn't help much mind you.

PinkKt,

Did you get his birth info from the census or have another source?
Have you looked at James's marriage cert to confirm his age?
I know I should know by now but do English marriage certs show parents' names?

Slightly far fetched but I wonder if he came from Alloway and not Alloa. Although there doesn't appear to be any Vassie families there are quite a few Vass Families in Ayrshire. One is a James Vass born in 1856.

Kind regards,
Annette M

[nelmit]

Hello again,

I'm going to leave the above post just in case..... but that James and family lived in New Cumnock.

Annette M

[Tracey]

I know I should know by now but do English marriage certs show parents' names?

Only the fathers name - (and witnesses)

[pinkKt]

Thank you everyone for your replies. I found James Vasey in Sunderland on the 1881 Census, with his wife and family. It states that he was born in Alloa, Clackmannanshire. He is my husband's great grandfather, but we knew very little about him, not even his name, the only thing we ever knew was that he was born in Alloa. I traced him through my husband's grandfather - but he is proving very elusive to find.He was born around 1847.

pinkKaty

[Tracey]

Hi Pinkkt

If its him ( looks like it though) . By 1901 he is a watchman in the Port and also has lost one of his arms.

1841
Source information: HO107/298/4 Registration district: South Shields Sub-registration district: Westoe ED, institution, or vessel: 4A Folio: 52 Page: 8 Line number: 13 GSU Number: 241347

Ann Vasey abt 1827 Durham, England Jarrow Durham
John Vasey abt 1811 Jarrow Durham (Occ Bottlemaker)
John Vasey abt 1835 Durham, England Jarrow Durham
Margaret Vasey abt 1840 Durham, England Jarrow Durham
Mary Vasey abt 1811 Durham, England Jarrow Durham
This is the only John and Mary combination ive found but there is a John and Margaret with closer birth years. (Not forgetting the rounding up or down of ages could have applied )

1851
Registration district: Sunderland Sub-registration district: Monk ED, institution, or vessel: 5a Household schedule number: 125

Catherine Vasey abt 1843 South Shields, Durham, England Daughter Southwick Durham
Edward Vasey abt 1850 Southwick, Durham, England Son Southwick Durham
James Vasey abt 1847 Scotland Son Southwick Durham
John Vasey abt 1804 Newcastle Upon Tyne Head Southwick Durham (Occ Glass Bottle Maker)
John Vasey abt 1835 South Shields, Durham, England Son Southwick Durham
Mary Vasey abt 1811 South Shields, Durham, England Wife Southwick Durham
William Vasey abt 1842 South Shields, Durham, England Son Southwick Durham

1861
Registration district: Sunderland Sub-registration district: North Bishop Wearmouth ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Household schedule number: 171

Alfred Vasey abt 1853 Southwick, Durham, England Son Bishop Wearmouth Durham
Catherine Vasey abt 1842 South Shields, Durham, England Daughter Bishop Wearmouth Durham
Edward Vasey abt 1850 Southwick, Durham, England Son Bishop Wearmouth Durham
James Vasey abt 1846 Scotland Son Bishop Wearmouth Durham
John Vasey abt 1803 Newcastle Upon Tyne Head Bishop Wearmouth Durham (Occ Bottle Maker ? )
Mary Vasey abt 1811 South Shields, Durham, England Wife Bishop Wearmouth D

1871
Registration district: Sunderland Sub-registration district: North Bishop Wearmouth ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Household schedule number: 281

Catherine Vasey abt 1843 So Shelds, Durham, England Daughter Bishopwearmouth Durham
James E Vasey abt 1847 Assoa, Scotland Son Bishopwearmouth Durham (Occ Bottle Maker Journeyman (?)
John Vasey abt 1804 Newcastle Upon Tyne Head Bishopwearmouth Durham (Occ Bottle Maker Journeyman (?)
Mary Vasey abt 1812 So Shelds, Durham, England Wife Bishopwearmouth Durham
William Vasey abt 1842 So Shelds, Durham, England Son Bishopwearmouth Durham

1881
Elizabeth Vasey abt 1857 Wisbeach, Lincoln, England Wife Bishopwearmouth Durham
James Vasey abt 1847 Alloa, Scotland Head Bishopwearmouth Durham (Occ Bill Poster )
Mary Vasey abt 1878 Sunderland Daughter Bishopwearmouth Durham
Albert Vasey h abt 1875 Sunderland Son Bishopwearmouth Durham

1891
Registration district: Sunderland Sub registration district: South Bishop Wearmouth ED, institution, or vessel: 12d

Alfred T Vasey abt 1875 Sunderland, Durham, England Son Bishop Wearmouth Durham
Elizabeth A Vasey abt 1857 Wisbeach, Cambridgeshire, England Wife Bishop Wearmouth Durham
James Edward Vasey abt 1847 Scotland Head Bishop Wearmouth Durham (Occ Bill Distributer )
John J Vasey abt 1884 Sunderland, Durham, England Son Bishop Wearmouth Durham
Mary E Vasey abt 1878 Sunderland, Durham, England Daughter Bishop Wearmouth Durham
Robert H Vasey abt 1887 Sunderland, Durham, England Son Bishop Wearmouth Durham
Alice Bowan abt 1874 Sunderland, Durham, England Visitor Bishop Wearmouth Durham

1901 James is a Widow
Registration district: Sunderland Sub-registration district: South Bishopwearmouth ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Household schedule number: 289

Robert H Vasey abt 1887 Sunderland, Durham, England Son Sunderland Durham
Alvina Vasey abt 1893 Sunderland, Durham, England Daughter Sunderland Durham
Eveline Vasey abt 1895 Sunderland, Durham, England Daughter Sunderland Durham
James E Vasey abt 1847 Alloa, Scotland Head Sunderland Durham ( Occ Watchman port)
John J Vasey abt 1885 Sunderland, Durham, England Son Sunderland Durham

Possible death
James Edward Vasey born abt 1847 died 1906 Apr-May-Jun quarter Sunderland Co. Durham, Tyne And Wear Volume: 10a Page: 351

Over to you

[pinkKt]

Thank you Tracey

Yes that has to be the right one - James Edward did lose an arm at some point no idea how.

Does this look as if he was the only child born in Alloa? Seems his parents were born in England if I'm translating this right. Not very good at this I'm afraid - will need to study it a lot to get a grasp of the family tree!

Many many thanks for your help

pinkKaty

[Tracey]

Hi pinkKaty

Yes it seems he was the only one (known anyway) to have been born in Scotland. Makes you wonder why they were there k

Good luck

Tracey