I have a marriage record for the above but it says Jean...so not sure I have the right family.
On their daughters, Elizabeth Young marriage record on Nov. 4. 1859 her parents are listed as Andrew Young, weaver and Janet Galloway Young. This marriage took place in Calton at 13 Churley St. Elizabeth Young married John Cooper who said he was born in Ireland (but I do not know where). John's father was Samuel Cooper and a weaver, his Mom was Elizabeth Thomson Cooper.
witnesses to the marriage were James Barclay and Margaret Cooper.
John and Elizabeth had about 8 children, with only 4 surviving.
Ann (my Great Grandmother) 1869 New Kilpatrick
Helen 1873 New Kilpatrick
Samuel 1876 Milngavie
Andrew 1881 Milngavie
Any connections?
Karen
Glendora, CA
USA
Andrew and Janet Galloway Young married in Barony 1834?.....
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Hi Karen
Sorry I don't have any solid information for you, but I have found in my own family that Jane/Jean/Janet/Jenny can all be the same name.
Liz
Sorry I don't have any solid information for you, but I have found in my own family that Jane/Jean/Janet/Jenny can all be the same name.
Liz
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Ross & Cromarty: Ross
NE Scot: Nicolson, Lindsay, Haliburton, Ross
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Thanks Liz..yes I have heard that before. Seems this Janet born in 1819 had a sister named Jean born in 1811. Kinda why I am confused about the marriage record for a Jean Galloway and not Janet. Probably not the correct marriage record for my Andrew and Janet.
By the way I noticed you have Lang in your tree. I think I posted a message about James and Annie Savage. If not they were married in Milngavie in 1890. James was Irish. Annie was Annie Cooper. I know James was a Catholic but I don't think Annie was. Anyway the two witnesses they had at the wedding were a Francis Keary and a "Mary Jane Lang" any connections to you?
The wedding took place on May 9, 1890 at the Milngavie Roman Catholic Church (which is no longer there but I have a picture of it). Seems James was also living at Elizabeth's home at Allander Terrace in Milngavie. James worked at the waterworks (which I have been to and walked all around the grounds) and Annie the papermill (which is now long gone and the library is there).
Just wondered if you have Mary in .your family tree?
Karen
By the way I noticed you have Lang in your tree. I think I posted a message about James and Annie Savage. If not they were married in Milngavie in 1890. James was Irish. Annie was Annie Cooper. I know James was a Catholic but I don't think Annie was. Anyway the two witnesses they had at the wedding were a Francis Keary and a "Mary Jane Lang" any connections to you?
The wedding took place on May 9, 1890 at the Milngavie Roman Catholic Church (which is no longer there but I have a picture of it). Seems James was also living at Elizabeth's home at Allander Terrace in Milngavie. James worked at the waterworks (which I have been to and walked all around the grounds) and Annie the papermill (which is now long gone and the library is there).
Just wondered if you have Mary in .your family tree?
Karen
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Sorry but I don't think my Langs are connected to you unfortunately ... my Langs are connected to the Balsillie family and hail from Pittenweem in Fife.
Best of luck with your searching.
Liz
Best of luck with your searching.
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Ross & Cromarty: Ross
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Karen
I just recently found my grandmothers BC in 1892, in all her other certs she was Jessie, but her actual birth name was Janet. This also applied to my maternal grandmother who was always known as Jean/Jeannie but her birth name was Jane. So you have to be a bit creative when looking for those names mentioned above. There is a very good chance the cert you have found is her.
On Janets BC her mother was named Janet Anderson (ms Graham) but her name too was Janet. Oh and there were a lot of wains named Jean on my mothers side, including my sister, not realising grannies real name was Jane
I just recently found my grandmothers BC in 1892, in all her other certs she was Jessie, but her actual birth name was Janet. This also applied to my maternal grandmother who was always known as Jean/Jeannie but her birth name was Jane. So you have to be a bit creative when looking for those names mentioned above. There is a very good chance the cert you have found is her.
On Janets BC her mother was named Janet Anderson (ms Graham) but her name too was Janet. Oh and there were a lot of wains named Jean on my mothers side, including my sister, not realising grannies real name was Jane
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Searching for: Anderson, Balks, Barton, Courtney, Davidson, Downie, Dunlop, Edward, Flucker, Galloway, Graham, Guthrie, Higgins, Laurie, Mathieson, McLean, McLuckie, Miln, Nielson, Payne, Phillips, Porterfield, Stewart, Watson
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Hi Karen,
I have several Young families on record.
Including a Galloway marriage and children.
They were from Fossoway.
http://www.fossoway.btinternet.co.uk/
However, I do have a connection for you.
Murdo, here on the 1881 census.
Dwelling: Strolamus
Census Place: Strath, Inverness, Scotland
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Kate MC LEAN U 32 F Strath, Inverness, Scotland
Rel: Head
Occ: Dressmaker
Murdo GRANT 6 M Strath, Inverness, Scotland
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
Charles GRANT 1 M Strath, Inverness, Scotland
Rel: Son
Agnes MC LEAN 15 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Boarder
Occ: Dom Servt
Married: Helen Alice Cooper, in 1901, daughter of your John and Elizabeth Young.
The Witnesses were his brother Charles and Martha McNaughtan.
I have the marriage record.
My Aunt Jean Young, married Lachlan Grant.
Have other bits of information on the Family if you want to get in touch.
Awrabest
Davie
I have several Young families on record.
Including a Galloway marriage and children.
They were from Fossoway.
http://www.fossoway.btinternet.co.uk/
However, I do have a connection for you.
Murdo, here on the 1881 census.
Dwelling: Strolamus
Census Place: Strath, Inverness, Scotland
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Kate MC LEAN U 32 F Strath, Inverness, Scotland
Rel: Head
Occ: Dressmaker
Murdo GRANT 6 M Strath, Inverness, Scotland
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
Charles GRANT 1 M Strath, Inverness, Scotland
Rel: Son
Agnes MC LEAN 15 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Boarder
Occ: Dom Servt
Married: Helen Alice Cooper, in 1901, daughter of your John and Elizabeth Young.
The Witnesses were his brother Charles and Martha McNaughtan.
I have the marriage record.
My Aunt Jean Young, married Lachlan Grant.
Have other bits of information on the Family if you want to get in touch.
Awrabest
Davie
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Re: Andrew and Janet Galloway Young married in Barony 1834?
Hi Karen,
I'd suspicions this was your Andrew YOUNG, with Jean GALLOWAY, in the 1841 census,
and with a different wife (Catherine) in 1851, and then living apart from each other in 1861.
But wasn't entirely sure till i saw the 1862 Poor Relief record that tied everything together.
Andrew was possibly married 3 times.....
His original occupation seems to have been a miller, then a carter, a weaver, a packer (on his 1880 DC).
Maybe your Elizabeth's 1859 MC with mother as Janet was just a wee error, and should be Jean?
(her siblings MCs/DCs may help)
This looks very like Elizabeth with her parents & siblings in Well Street, Calton, Glasgow 1841.
And If so then mother Jean aged 27 looks to be born nearer to 1811, rather than 1819 (when sis Janet was born).
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JAMES YOUNG & JEAN PERCY - Marriage: 01 JAN 1804 Douglas, Lanark, Scotland [from IGI]
--possibly the parents of Andrew--
ANDREW YOUNG & JEAN GALLOWAY - Marriage: 27 JUN 1834 Barony, Lanark, Scotland [IGI]
OPR 622. Vol.17. p161. Marriages (Barony)
"Andrew YOUNG, miller & Jean GALLOWAY both residing in Barony.
Married at Glasgow 27 JUN 1834 by the Rev. William Brash,
Minister of the United Secession Chapel, Campbell Street, Glasgow"
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1841 census 622 Ed 145 pp 1-2 (Barony - Calton)
Well St.
Andrew YOUNG, 27, j. miller, b LKS
Jean YOUNG, 27, --------------b SCT [this would fit for Midlothian]
Elizabeth YOUNG, 6, ---------b LKS
Jane YOUNG, 4, --------------b LKS
James YOUNG, 10mos, ---b LKS
======================
DAVID HENDERSON & CATHARINE WITHERS - Marriage: SEP 1833 New Monkland, Lanark, Scotland [IGI]
Seems just the 2 children -
JEAN HENDERSON - Birth about 1834
SARAH HENDERSON - Birth: 07 NOV 1835 Barony, Lanark, Scotland
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1841 census 622 Ed 146 pp 2-3 (Barony - Calton)
Well St.
// David HENDERSON, 38, hand loom weaver, b LKS
Catherine HENDERSON, 34, -------------------b LKS [sic - but shd be SCT?]
Jean HENDERSON, 6, -------------------------b LKS
Sarah HENDERSON, 5, ---------------------b LKS
/ George HENDERSON, 88, wright, b LKS
James CLARK, 20, ostler, b SCT
William SEATON, 18, hand loom weaver, b SCT
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ANDREW YOUNG & CATHERINE WITHER - Marriage: 02 JUL 1848 Barony, Lanark, Scotland [IGI]
OPR 622. Vol.19. p390. Marriages (Barony)
2nd July 1848. "Andrew YOUNG, carter, Calton & Catherine WITHER residing there"
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1851 census 622 (593) Ed 14 p 19 (Barony - Calton)
27 Well St.
Andrew YOUNG, head, marr, 39, hand loom weaver, b Glasgow, LKS [but shd be Lesmahagow]
Cathrine YOUNG, wife, marr, 44, ------------------------b Muirkirk, AYR [sic]
Jeane HENDERSON, daur, 16, power loom weaver, b Glasgow, LKS [married George WRIGHT 29 Apr 1856]
Sarah HENDERSON, daur, 15, cotton mill piecer, b Glasgow, LKS [married James FORRESTER 31 Dec 1861]
Elisabeth YOUNG, daur, 15, cotton mill piecer, b Glasgow, LKS [married John COOPER 4 Nov 1859]
Jane YOUNG, daur, 13, hair cloth weaver, b Glasgow, LKS [married James McCULLOCH 2 Oct 1857]
James YOUNG, son, 10, scholar, b Glasgow, LKS [possibly died young - before 1862]
Andrew YOUNG, son, 8, at home, b Glasgow, LKS [alive in 1862]
Thomas YOUNG, son, 5, at home, b Glasgow, LKS [alive in 1862]
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1861 census 644-3 Ed 40 p 5 (Calton)
19 Charles St. [address on Poor Law record]
William NAISMITH, head, widower, 58, hand loom cotton weaver, b Hamilton, LKS
John NAISMITH, son, 7, -----------------b Glasgow, LKS
Andrew YOUNG, boarder, Marr, 48, cotton hand loom weaver, b Lesmahagow, LKS [just a few miles north of Douglas]
&
1861 census 644-4 Ed 88 p 3 (Calton)
3 Struthers St.
Catherine YOUNG, head, Marr, 50, -----------------b Muirkirk, AYR
Sarah H. YOUNG, daur, u/m 24, machine sewer?, b Glasgow, LKS
James FORRESTER, boarder, u/m 24, iron dresser, b Paisley, RFW [who married Sarah 31 Dec 1861]
Thomas DUNCAN, lodger, u/m 17, shoemaker j/man, b Paisley, RFW
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1861 census 644-4 Ed 57 pp 6-7 (Calton)
30 Main St.
James McCULLOCH, head, marr, 27, printer (pressman), b Glasgow, LKS
Jane McCULLOCH, wife, marr, 22, ---------------------------b Glasgow, LKS [Jane Young]
Joseph McCULLOCH, son, 2, ---------------------------------b Glasgow, LKS
Andrew McCULLOCH, son, 7mos, -------------------------b Glasgow, LKS
Andrew YOUNG, bro-in-law, u/m 19, cotton spinner, b Glasgow, LKS
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1880 DC - Andrew YOUNG [68] tobacco manuf. packer, d. 27 Feb 1880 at 199 Bartholomew St, Glasgow.
Pas - James YOUNG, road surfaceman & Jean YOUNG, formerly McLEAN, m/s PERCY.
1st wife - Catherine WITHERS.
2nd wife - Lillias McCANCE [who was the informant]
[No mention of actual 1st wife Jean GALLOWAY who appears to have died by 1848, but possibly wasn't known to Lillias?]
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Barony Poor Relief Application. D-HEW 14/14. page 13880.
6 May 1862.
Andrew YOUNG, married, 49yrs.
19 Charles Street.
Born - Lesmahagow.
Occup - Weaver.
Wife - Catherine WITHERS, 60yrs.?
Children by 1st wife -
Elizabeth 25, b. Well St. married to John COOPER, labourer, 1 child, can't tell where.
Jane 23, b. Well St. married to James McCULLOCH, printer, 2 children, Brickfield Open.
Andrew 21, b. Well St. single, Sharper? 7/-
Thomas 17, b. Well St. message boy.
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Parents - James YOUNG & Jane PEARCY. Both dead.
Residences -
Present - 19 Charles St, Barony - 1yr 4mos
Prior - Brook St, Barony - 2mos
do - Beggars Row, Glasgow - 5mos
do - Charles St, Barony - 2yrs
do - Green St, Barony - 2yrs
do - Craignestock Place?, Barony - 1yr
do - Tobago St, Barony - 2yrs
do - Union St, Barony - 1yr
do - Tylefield, Barony - 2yrs
do - Blantyre St, Barony - 1yr 4mos
do - Well St, Barony - 17yrs
--
Rent - 1/1 wkly.
8 May 1862 - Poorhouse.
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It was a short but useful record,
though doesn't say why Andrew was admitted to (or offered) the Poorhouse - maybe illness?
Might be worth trying to find Andrew & Catherine (if living) in 1871 to see if they are back together.
Also his 3rd marriage (if he was) to Lillias McCance.
Jack
I'd suspicions this was your Andrew YOUNG, with Jean GALLOWAY, in the 1841 census,
and with a different wife (Catherine) in 1851, and then living apart from each other in 1861.
But wasn't entirely sure till i saw the 1862 Poor Relief record that tied everything together.
Andrew was possibly married 3 times.....
His original occupation seems to have been a miller, then a carter, a weaver, a packer (on his 1880 DC).
Maybe your Elizabeth's 1859 MC with mother as Janet was just a wee error, and should be Jean?
(her siblings MCs/DCs may help)
This looks very like Elizabeth with her parents & siblings in Well Street, Calton, Glasgow 1841.
And If so then mother Jean aged 27 looks to be born nearer to 1811, rather than 1819 (when sis Janet was born).
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JAMES YOUNG & JEAN PERCY - Marriage: 01 JAN 1804 Douglas, Lanark, Scotland [from IGI]
--possibly the parents of Andrew--
ANDREW YOUNG & JEAN GALLOWAY - Marriage: 27 JUN 1834 Barony, Lanark, Scotland [IGI]
OPR 622. Vol.17. p161. Marriages (Barony)
"Andrew YOUNG, miller & Jean GALLOWAY both residing in Barony.
Married at Glasgow 27 JUN 1834 by the Rev. William Brash,
Minister of the United Secession Chapel, Campbell Street, Glasgow"
--
1841 census 622 Ed 145 pp 1-2 (Barony - Calton)
Well St.
Andrew YOUNG, 27, j. miller, b LKS
Jean YOUNG, 27, --------------b SCT [this would fit for Midlothian]
Elizabeth YOUNG, 6, ---------b LKS
Jane YOUNG, 4, --------------b LKS
James YOUNG, 10mos, ---b LKS
======================
DAVID HENDERSON & CATHARINE WITHERS - Marriage: SEP 1833 New Monkland, Lanark, Scotland [IGI]
Seems just the 2 children -
JEAN HENDERSON - Birth about 1834
SARAH HENDERSON - Birth: 07 NOV 1835 Barony, Lanark, Scotland
--
1841 census 622 Ed 146 pp 2-3 (Barony - Calton)
Well St.
// David HENDERSON, 38, hand loom weaver, b LKS
Catherine HENDERSON, 34, -------------------b LKS [sic - but shd be SCT?]
Jean HENDERSON, 6, -------------------------b LKS
Sarah HENDERSON, 5, ---------------------b LKS
/ George HENDERSON, 88, wright, b LKS
James CLARK, 20, ostler, b SCT
William SEATON, 18, hand loom weaver, b SCT
================================
ANDREW YOUNG & CATHERINE WITHER - Marriage: 02 JUL 1848 Barony, Lanark, Scotland [IGI]
OPR 622. Vol.19. p390. Marriages (Barony)
2nd July 1848. "Andrew YOUNG, carter, Calton & Catherine WITHER residing there"
--
1851 census 622 (593) Ed 14 p 19 (Barony - Calton)
27 Well St.
Andrew YOUNG, head, marr, 39, hand loom weaver, b Glasgow, LKS [but shd be Lesmahagow]
Cathrine YOUNG, wife, marr, 44, ------------------------b Muirkirk, AYR [sic]
Jeane HENDERSON, daur, 16, power loom weaver, b Glasgow, LKS [married George WRIGHT 29 Apr 1856]
Sarah HENDERSON, daur, 15, cotton mill piecer, b Glasgow, LKS [married James FORRESTER 31 Dec 1861]
Elisabeth YOUNG, daur, 15, cotton mill piecer, b Glasgow, LKS [married John COOPER 4 Nov 1859]
Jane YOUNG, daur, 13, hair cloth weaver, b Glasgow, LKS [married James McCULLOCH 2 Oct 1857]
James YOUNG, son, 10, scholar, b Glasgow, LKS [possibly died young - before 1862]
Andrew YOUNG, son, 8, at home, b Glasgow, LKS [alive in 1862]
Thomas YOUNG, son, 5, at home, b Glasgow, LKS [alive in 1862]
--
1861 census 644-3 Ed 40 p 5 (Calton)
19 Charles St. [address on Poor Law record]
William NAISMITH, head, widower, 58, hand loom cotton weaver, b Hamilton, LKS
John NAISMITH, son, 7, -----------------b Glasgow, LKS
Andrew YOUNG, boarder, Marr, 48, cotton hand loom weaver, b Lesmahagow, LKS [just a few miles north of Douglas]
&
1861 census 644-4 Ed 88 p 3 (Calton)
3 Struthers St.
Catherine YOUNG, head, Marr, 50, -----------------b Muirkirk, AYR
Sarah H. YOUNG, daur, u/m 24, machine sewer?, b Glasgow, LKS
James FORRESTER, boarder, u/m 24, iron dresser, b Paisley, RFW [who married Sarah 31 Dec 1861]
Thomas DUNCAN, lodger, u/m 17, shoemaker j/man, b Paisley, RFW
--
1861 census 644-4 Ed 57 pp 6-7 (Calton)
30 Main St.
James McCULLOCH, head, marr, 27, printer (pressman), b Glasgow, LKS
Jane McCULLOCH, wife, marr, 22, ---------------------------b Glasgow, LKS [Jane Young]
Joseph McCULLOCH, son, 2, ---------------------------------b Glasgow, LKS
Andrew McCULLOCH, son, 7mos, -------------------------b Glasgow, LKS
Andrew YOUNG, bro-in-law, u/m 19, cotton spinner, b Glasgow, LKS
---
1880 DC - Andrew YOUNG [68] tobacco manuf. packer, d. 27 Feb 1880 at 199 Bartholomew St, Glasgow.
Pas - James YOUNG, road surfaceman & Jean YOUNG, formerly McLEAN, m/s PERCY.
1st wife - Catherine WITHERS.
2nd wife - Lillias McCANCE [who was the informant]
[No mention of actual 1st wife Jean GALLOWAY who appears to have died by 1848, but possibly wasn't known to Lillias?]
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Barony Poor Relief Application. D-HEW 14/14. page 13880.
6 May 1862.
Andrew YOUNG, married, 49yrs.
19 Charles Street.
Born - Lesmahagow.
Occup - Weaver.
Wife - Catherine WITHERS, 60yrs.?
Children by 1st wife -
Elizabeth 25, b. Well St. married to John COOPER, labourer, 1 child, can't tell where.
Jane 23, b. Well St. married to James McCULLOCH, printer, 2 children, Brickfield Open.
Andrew 21, b. Well St. single, Sharper? 7/-
Thomas 17, b. Well St. message boy.
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Parents - James YOUNG & Jane PEARCY. Both dead.
Residences -
Present - 19 Charles St, Barony - 1yr 4mos
Prior - Brook St, Barony - 2mos
do - Beggars Row, Glasgow - 5mos
do - Charles St, Barony - 2yrs
do - Green St, Barony - 2yrs
do - Craignestock Place?, Barony - 1yr
do - Tobago St, Barony - 2yrs
do - Union St, Barony - 1yr
do - Tylefield, Barony - 2yrs
do - Blantyre St, Barony - 1yr 4mos
do - Well St, Barony - 17yrs
--
Rent - 1/1 wkly.
8 May 1862 - Poorhouse.
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It was a short but useful record,
though doesn't say why Andrew was admitted to (or offered) the Poorhouse - maybe illness?
Might be worth trying to find Andrew & Catherine (if living) in 1871 to see if they are back together.
Also his 3rd marriage (if he was) to Lillias McCance.
Jack
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Re: Andrew and Janet Galloway Young married in Barony 1834?
Hi again Karen,
Seems both the girls got it wrong on their mother's forename...neither had JEAN.
Elizabeth COOPER m/s YOUNG - 1859 MC & 1921 DC has mother as JANET GALLOWAY.
Jane McCULLOCH m/s YOUNG - 1857 MC & 1898 DC has mother as MARGARET GALLOWAY.
--
Looks very much like Andrew YOUNG & Catherine WITHERS had split up by 1861.
Then Andrew & Lillias McCANCE meet up, maybe 1865 or earlier.
Andrew & Lillias were apart in 1871, but they do seem to be back together throughout most of the 1870s.
(and until he died in 1880)
Here's what appears to be their children - not sure if Andrew is father of all.
But he is to Ellen, Samuel, Lillias, and Mary at the very least.
--
JOHN YOUNG b ~1863 [surname from censuses, but looks like John McCANSH b. 14 JAN 1863, Bridgeton]
Possibly Lillias' son before meeting Andrew. BC has mother as widow Lillias STOREY m/s McCANSH.
ELLEN YOUNG - Birth: 30 NOV 1865 Bridgeton [died aged 6 on 29 Mar 1871]
SAMUEL YOUNG - Birth: 10 OCT 1869 Bridgeton
DAVID McCANSE - Birth: 14 JUN 1872 Bridgeton [so maybe not Andrew's son?]
LILLIAS YOUNG - Birth: 25 APR 1876 Bridgeton
MARY YOUNG - Birth: 4 FEB 1879, Bridgeton
[BCs of Ellen, Samuel, Lillias, Mary say parents Andrew & Lillias married 26 AUG 1865, Glasgow]
Can't see an 1865 marriage, but they did marry on 19 FEB 1880 [Andrew then dies 8 days later]
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1871 census 644-3 Ed 68 p 6 (Calton)
23 Kirk Street. [living with a Wm. Foster & family from Ireland]
Andrew YOUNG, boarder, marr, 57, foundry labourer, b Lesmahagow, LKS [occupation change]
--
1871 census 644-3 Ed 29 p 10 (Bridgeton)
22 McKechnie Street.
Samuel McCANN, head, widower, 73, cotton weaver, b Glasgow, LKS
Lily YOUNG, daur, marr, 30, wool winder at home, b Glasgow, LKS [Lily says she's married]
John YOUNG, gr-son, 8, ---------------b Glasgow, LKS [probably John McCansh]
Samuel YOUNG, gr-son, 1, ---------b Glasgow, LKS
--
1871 census 644-4 Ed 72 p 17 (Calton)
24 Tobago Street.
Catherine YOUNG, head, widow, 65, shopkeeper (provision), b Muirkirk, AYR [Catherine decides to say she's a widow]
Allan McDONALD, boarder, u/m 21? moulder, b Stirling, STI
James CAMPBELL, boarder, u/m 20, carter, b Glasgow, LKS
Richard FORREST, gr-son, 8, --------------b Glasgow, LKS [name probably meant to be Forrester]
Ellen ANDREW, lodger, u/m 20, waitress, cooking depot, b Stranraer, WIG
--
Catherine YOUNG m/s WITHERS (64) died 10 FEB 1876 at 24 Tobago St, Glasgow.
Marr. 1) David HENDERSON. 2) Andrew YOUNG, cotton weaver.
Informant - Geo. Wright, son-in-law.
--
Andrew YOUNG (67) & Lillias McCANCE (40) married 19 FEB 1880, 199 Bartholomew St.
--
Andrew YOUNG [68] died 27 Feb 1880 at 199 Bartholomew St, Glasgow.
1st wife - Catherine WITHERS.
2nd wife - Lillias McCANCE [informant]
--
1881 Census Place: Barony, Lanark, Scotland
Dwelling: 193 Bartholomew St
Source:FHL Film 0203631 GRO Ref Volume 644-1 EnumDist 63 Page 14
Lily YOUNG, widow 40 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Cop Reeler
Jno. YOUNG U 18 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Dyer
Samuel YOUNG 11 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Scholar
David YOUNG 8 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Scholar
Lily YOUNG 5 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Daur
Mary YOUNG 2 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Daur
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1891 census 644-1 Ed 72 p 16 (Bridgeton)
144 Boden Street.
Lily YOUNG, head, widow, 50, housekeeper, b Glasgow, LKS
Samuel YOUNG, son, u/m 21, carter, b Glasgow, LKS
David YOUNG, son, u/m 18, general labourer, b Glasgow, LKS
Lily YOUNG, daur, 14, cop packer, b Glasgow, LKS
Mary YOUNG, daur, 11, scholar, b Glasgow, LKS
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Lillias YOUNG m/s McCANCE (89) died 25 OCT 1927 at Cambuslang.
Widow of Andrew YOUNG, general labourer.
Informant - Lily McEwan, daur.
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Your GGG-GF Andrew led quite an eventful life; and you've more cousins out there somewhere....
Jack
Seems both the girls got it wrong on their mother's forename...neither had JEAN.
Elizabeth COOPER m/s YOUNG - 1859 MC & 1921 DC has mother as JANET GALLOWAY.
Jane McCULLOCH m/s YOUNG - 1857 MC & 1898 DC has mother as MARGARET GALLOWAY.
--
Looks very much like Andrew YOUNG & Catherine WITHERS had split up by 1861.
Then Andrew & Lillias McCANCE meet up, maybe 1865 or earlier.
Andrew & Lillias were apart in 1871, but they do seem to be back together throughout most of the 1870s.
(and until he died in 1880)
Here's what appears to be their children - not sure if Andrew is father of all.
But he is to Ellen, Samuel, Lillias, and Mary at the very least.
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JOHN YOUNG b ~1863 [surname from censuses, but looks like John McCANSH b. 14 JAN 1863, Bridgeton]
Possibly Lillias' son before meeting Andrew. BC has mother as widow Lillias STOREY m/s McCANSH.
ELLEN YOUNG - Birth: 30 NOV 1865 Bridgeton [died aged 6 on 29 Mar 1871]
SAMUEL YOUNG - Birth: 10 OCT 1869 Bridgeton
DAVID McCANSE - Birth: 14 JUN 1872 Bridgeton [so maybe not Andrew's son?]
LILLIAS YOUNG - Birth: 25 APR 1876 Bridgeton
MARY YOUNG - Birth: 4 FEB 1879, Bridgeton
[BCs of Ellen, Samuel, Lillias, Mary say parents Andrew & Lillias married 26 AUG 1865, Glasgow]
Can't see an 1865 marriage, but they did marry on 19 FEB 1880 [Andrew then dies 8 days later]
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1871 census 644-3 Ed 68 p 6 (Calton)
23 Kirk Street. [living with a Wm. Foster & family from Ireland]
Andrew YOUNG, boarder, marr, 57, foundry labourer, b Lesmahagow, LKS [occupation change]
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1871 census 644-3 Ed 29 p 10 (Bridgeton)
22 McKechnie Street.
Samuel McCANN, head, widower, 73, cotton weaver, b Glasgow, LKS
Lily YOUNG, daur, marr, 30, wool winder at home, b Glasgow, LKS [Lily says she's married]
John YOUNG, gr-son, 8, ---------------b Glasgow, LKS [probably John McCansh]
Samuel YOUNG, gr-son, 1, ---------b Glasgow, LKS
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1871 census 644-4 Ed 72 p 17 (Calton)
24 Tobago Street.
Catherine YOUNG, head, widow, 65, shopkeeper (provision), b Muirkirk, AYR [Catherine decides to say she's a widow]
Allan McDONALD, boarder, u/m 21? moulder, b Stirling, STI
James CAMPBELL, boarder, u/m 20, carter, b Glasgow, LKS
Richard FORREST, gr-son, 8, --------------b Glasgow, LKS [name probably meant to be Forrester]
Ellen ANDREW, lodger, u/m 20, waitress, cooking depot, b Stranraer, WIG
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Catherine YOUNG m/s WITHERS (64) died 10 FEB 1876 at 24 Tobago St, Glasgow.
Marr. 1) David HENDERSON. 2) Andrew YOUNG, cotton weaver.
Informant - Geo. Wright, son-in-law.
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Andrew YOUNG (67) & Lillias McCANCE (40) married 19 FEB 1880, 199 Bartholomew St.
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Andrew YOUNG [68] died 27 Feb 1880 at 199 Bartholomew St, Glasgow.
1st wife - Catherine WITHERS.
2nd wife - Lillias McCANCE [informant]
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1881 Census Place: Barony, Lanark, Scotland
Dwelling: 193 Bartholomew St
Source:FHL Film 0203631 GRO Ref Volume 644-1 EnumDist 63 Page 14
Lily YOUNG, widow 40 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Cop Reeler
Jno. YOUNG U 18 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Dyer
Samuel YOUNG 11 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Scholar
David YOUNG 8 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Scholar
Lily YOUNG 5 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Daur
Mary YOUNG 2 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Daur
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1891 census 644-1 Ed 72 p 16 (Bridgeton)
144 Boden Street.
Lily YOUNG, head, widow, 50, housekeeper, b Glasgow, LKS
Samuel YOUNG, son, u/m 21, carter, b Glasgow, LKS
David YOUNG, son, u/m 18, general labourer, b Glasgow, LKS
Lily YOUNG, daur, 14, cop packer, b Glasgow, LKS
Mary YOUNG, daur, 11, scholar, b Glasgow, LKS
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Lillias YOUNG m/s McCANCE (89) died 25 OCT 1927 at Cambuslang.
Widow of Andrew YOUNG, general labourer.
Informant - Lily McEwan, daur.
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Your GGG-GF Andrew led quite an eventful life; and you've more cousins out there somewhere....
Jack
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Clannessie
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Please email me at ClannessieATaol would love to hear more on the family!!!
Sorry to be so long in replying. Jack finally found my email onother site and let me know I had more messages about The Young's and Galloways!
Can't wait to hear what you know on Helen
I am in Southern California...where are you at?
Karen
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Sorry to be so long in replying. Jack finally found my email onother site and let me know I had more messages about The Young's and Galloways!
Can't wait to hear what you know on Helen
I am in Southern California...where are you at?
Karen
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